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THE SEASON episode 5 (The Scharrenberg’s) - episode 5 of VC Season

That brief 6 min video was really good and what the WCAL is all about. I'd heard the Scharrenberg names mentioned for many, many years' so it was fascinating to see and hear their story from the various family members.
 
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WCAL Football 2019-20: Schools with declining acknowledgement of their Football teams [?]

Looking at MaxPreps and a few sites I was reviewing stats of some of the teams/players. There are now 3 teams of the 8 WCAL teams which do not report team stats to MaxPreps or other sites. The Bells went silent in 2012 as to reporting much of anything [Bells had their own football web site by parents at one time which fizzled due to lack of info/participation]. Next up is St. Ignatius who quit reporting stats in 2016, due in part I believe to their 2015 season in which S.I. went 1-9 including numerous blow-outs. The latest is SHC who quit reporting their stats in 2018. Like any site such as MaxPreps the info posted "bleeds down" to other sites and spreads the information rapidly. By not posting fans know far less about the various teams and players. In an age where newspapers have been dying off for years' due to lack of readership, lack of information leads to lack of interest. The last 2 primary generations: Gen Z [ie: "Centennials"] born 1996+ and the Millennials born 1977-1995 simply do NOT read print publications - its all about the internet, "plane & simpal" as they say. So is this becoming a trend or perhaps a school ideology in not referring to individual players? Or it could be simple lack of interest in teams that have not had much success in recent years'[?].
Unfortunately it is not good for the sport, the teams or the players in not publishing as much information about them as possible. Gone are the days when the county and city newspapers published game summaries and stats not only the varsity games, but the JV and frosh games as well. Sad.

What do fans out there think - should someone acknowledge the players of these schools accomplishments simply by reporting the game/player stats? [only takes one person]. I know I'd like to see S.I.'s Teddye Buchanan stats along with SHC's CIan Dowling passing stats week to week [other than searching for article's or watching NFHS game recaps].
 
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Rmbr26 said:
THE SEASON episode 5 (The Scharrenberg’s) - episode 5 of VC Season

That brief 6 min video was really good and what the WCAL is all about. I'd heard the Scharrenberg names mentioned for many, many years' so it was fascinating to see and hear their story from the various family members.
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Their footprints in WCAL football go way back. While at SF, Eric Scharrenberg was the WCAL Football player of the Year in 1985, his brother Mark got that award in 1986.
 
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For sure Riordan is on the up and up. You dont pour in resources into their facilities and expect those programs to be perennially awful. I will gladly root for one of our city teams (except SI) to be able to challenge the south teams. After last weekends games, its still a ways away for either SH or Riordan be in the same ballpark as VC, SF or Serra.
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SH needs to find a tailback to balance out the offense. It appears that the one we have is not performing to date. I know they are young, but time to start trying them all out now since we haven't won one game.
 
Regarding publicizing your team, I once asked the baseball coach at a SoCal school who had won about 800 games why he made a point of being so cooperative and he said, "At this school, we don't hide our players." I have found water polo coaches to be the most secretive. I don't think programs that don't post stats benefit.
 
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SH needs to find a tailback to balance out the offense. It appears that the one we have is not performing to date. I know they are young, but time to start trying them all out now since we haven't won one game.
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The drop off from Heard to the duo of Cormican and Reagans is steep. The hope was Reagans after a very good freshman year would translate to the varsity level. The adjustment isnt there. He has size and decent speed but this year has been difficult for him. The Irish RBs this year have spent more time in their backfield than moving forward. Here from the peanut gallery I would try to find some silver lining with Reagans perhaps trying to see if he can make an impact on the defensive side of the ball as a LB. I dont see any point punishing your RBs the next games versus SF, VC, Serra because I can tell you wants going to happen if they get the handoff.

Best chance for any win would be to make it through to the last two games vs Bellarmine and Riordan with everyone intact.
 
Rmbr26 said:
WCAL Football 2019-20: Schools with declining acknowledgement of their Football teams [?]

Looking at MaxPreps and a few sites I was reviewing stats of some of the teams/players. There are now 3 teams of the 8 WCAL teams which do not report team stats to MaxPreps or other sites. The Bells went silent in 2012 as to reporting much of anything [Bells had their own football web site by parents at one time which fizzled due to lack of info/participation]. Next up is St. Ignatius who quit reporting stats in 2016, due in part I believe to their 2015 season in which S.I. went 1-9 including numerous blow-outs. The latest is SHC who quit reporting their stats in 2018. Like any site such as MaxPreps the info posted "bleeds down" to other sites and spreads the information rapidly. By not posting fans know far less about the various teams and players. In an age where newspapers have been dying off for years' due to lack of readership, lack of information leads to lack of interest. The last 2 primary generations: Gen Z [ie: "Centennials"] born 1996+ and the Millennials born 1977-1995 simply do NOT read print publications - its all about the internet, "plane & simpal" as they say. So is this becoming a trend or perhaps a school ideology in not referring to individual players? Or it could be simple lack of interest in teams that have not had much success in recent years'[?].
Unfortunately it is not good for the sport, the teams or the players in not publishing as much information about them as possible. Gone are the days when the county and city newspapers published game summaries and stats not only the varsity games, but the JV and frosh games as well. Sad.

What do fans out there think - should someone acknowledge the players of these schools accomplishments simply by reporting the game/player stats? [only takes one person]. I know I'd like to see S.I.'s Teddye Buchanan stats along with SHC's CIan Dowling passing stats week to week [other than searching for article's or watching NFHS game recaps].
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Its definitely lack of interest Rmbr. If you go to any WCAL school's athletic twitter accounts, you will find the majority of their tweets will garner less than 10 likes/retweets. You'll probably find more interactions on individual players Twitter or Instagram accounts. Thus the modern trend revealed: Players > Institutions.
 
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"iamgearyblvd[/B], post: 243765, member: 1806"]Its definitely lack of interest Rmbr. If you go to any WCAL school's athletic twitter accounts, you will find the majority of their tweets will garner less than 10 likes/retweets. You'll probably find more interactions on individual players Twitter or Instagram accounts. Thus the modern trend revealed: Players > Institutions.
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Yes I guess the lack of interest to some extent is due to lack of promotion of the team and particular sport. From reading posts it appears S.I.'s student body has been supporting the football team more enthusiastically this season than the past several. It's always interesting at Serra's home games to see the opposing teams crowd as to how many family, friends and students come to support them whether losing or not. One thing we do know is everyone luvs a winner. That being the case if Serra & VC remain unbeaten up until their game Nov. 2nd then I don;t think lack of interest will be an issue with the crowd.
 
Rmbr26 said:
Yes I guess the lack of interest to some extent is due to lack of promotion of the team and particular sport. From reading posts it appears S.I.'s student body has been supporting the football team more enthusiastically this season than the past several. It's always interesting at Serra's home games to see the opposing teams crowd as to how many family, friends and students come to support them whether losing or not. One thing we do know is everyone luvs a winner. That being the case if Serra & VC remain unbeaten up until their game Nov. 2nd then I don;t think lack of interest will be an issue with the crowd.
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I think families in general are the majority "fans in attendance" across all the schools. Tough to convince the regular student body who is not interested in sports to come watch a 7/7:30pm game on a school night. Double whammy for a student to come on a Friday night to cold, windy, abysmal Kezar to watch a football game. SI and Riordan usually have games on Saturday afternoons. You'll probably have more attending the Riordan game because most of the student body are SF/SSF/DC kids and Riordan is not far away and has ample parking. SI, well those Marin kids probably arent coming down, neither are the ones from Presidio Heights.
 
Going back a bit, but it was my fan experience 2008-2012, that VC, SF, Serra, Bells, and SI sometimes had really healthy crowds. It's a little bit of a bummer to hear of the decline.

I really dont understand why teams dont update their stats, its private school for c-sake.

A few weeks ago I attended the Whitney vs. Rocklin game and there was over 5K in attendance. My recommendation on the peninsula is more pig bbq.
 
Santa Ball said:
Going back a bit, but it was my fan experience 2008-2012, that VC, SF, Serra, Bells, and SI sometimes had really healthy crowds. It's a little bit of a bummer to hear of the decline.

I really dont understand why teams dont update their stats, its private school for c-sake.

A few weeks ago I attended the Whitney vs. Rocklin game and there was over 5K in attendance. My recommendation on the peninsula is more pig bbq.
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VC BBQ’s 300 lbs of tri-tip at every home game. Beef works too.
 
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As Santa Ball states in the above post the Sac-Joaquin section has a lot of fan support for the better programs. I remember about 5-6 yrs ago when Del Oro from Loomis traveled to SJCC to play Serra in the NorCal sectional and it was not live-streamed. Del Oro High is a 3-hour drive to SJCC and Del Oro I think may have had more fans than Serra - they had a huge and raucous crowd that was loud the entire game. I remember the game well as Del Oro dominated Serra physically though the score was close.

I also remember Serra-Bells games and Serra-SF games at home with 5,000 - 7,000 fans at the night games. Those games are rare these days with the crowds a fraction of what they used to be. I'm not expecting too many Bells fans at the Serra game this week and as I mentioned the big crowd game will be Serra-VC if all goes as expected [and yes Colhenry I realize "The Curse" may still ruin everything..]
 
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Santa Ball said:
Going back a bit, but it was my fan experience 2008-2012, that VC, SF, Serra, Bells, and SI sometimes had really healthy crowds. It's a little bit of a bummer to hear of the decline.

I really dont understand why teams dont update their stats, its private school for c-sake.

A few weeks ago I attended the Whitney vs. Rocklin game and there was over 5K in attendance. My recommendation on the peninsula is more pig bbq.
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SF with the late Joe Schram and Riordan with Pat took pride in entering the stats. Its a thankless job and some may feel like why bother because only a few eyeballs will actually look at these stats. The stats are there. The student managers record them in the books. Its just having someone transfer them which is not a priority for a high school student, or coach.
 
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"iamgearyblvd[/B], post: 243885, member: 1806"]SF with the late Joe Schram and Riordan with Pat took pride in entering the stats. Its a thankless job and some may feel like why bother because only a few eyeballs will actually look at these stats. The stats are there. The student managers record them in the books. Its just having someone transfer them which is not a priority for a high school student, or coach.
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The Demise of Bellarmine Football?

iamgeary - the effort required to post a teams post is next to nothing & I exceed the time & effort whenever I post a weekly update on the WCAL teams. Its no big deal for me as I enjoy and can't understand how they cannot find a single individual for each school's team to post their stats[?].

1] Hey S.I. fans can you take your renewed enthusiasm a step further & post your stats - doesn't Teddye Buchanan deserve to be recognized as one of the best players in the WCAL? If you don't post them then you don't care. Simple as that.

2] SHC Irish - what the heck happened to your team & player support anyway? If this was basketball or volleyball and the Irish were crushing the other WCAL teams you can bet the stats would be everywhere. I guess the Irish simply don't recognize or appreciate the effort of their junior QB Cian Dowling who BTW is operating under the most challenging of circumstances. Wow - I'm a Serra alum & feeling bad that SHC is allowing both S.I. AND Riordan to show them up in terms of fan and school support of THEIR football team.

3] Lastly the Bells who have fallen and fallen hard - largely due to school admin, student body & parents involvement of public support of their team and players to perpetuate their team & players. I noticed this in 2012-2013 and it has gone downhill from there and with it the Bells strangle-hold along with SF on WCAL football. Bellarmine is now currently regarded as one of the worst large school football programs in NorCal over the last 4 seasons and that my friends should not be acceptable to the school or alumni. Very sad indeed.
 
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The Bellarmine slide cannot continue a whole lot longer. It has to be something the school's thousands of loyal alums/donors cannot abide. It has become a stigma, a blot on the Jesuit sporting legacy in San Jose. The once-dominant Bells, a legendary NorCal power, have lost 15 of their last 21 WCAL games, some of them by large margins. Serra, a one-time regular victim of the Bellarmine juggernaut, is once again poised to apply a dose of wood Friday night. When will the Bells, with the largest all-boys parochial student body in NorCal, be competitive at the top of the league again? Not in 2019. Next year? It's unclear. The clock is ticking.
 
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Other than football, the rest of the Bellarmine sports program is very strong. So it will not be a surprise if the one glaring weak link is rectified. When?
 
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Other than football, the rest of the Bellarmine sports program is very strong. So it will not be a surprise if the one glaring weak link is rectified. When?
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Its perplexing that just football is affected. Basketball and baseball are still successful. Another one is VC in basketball. They are head above shoulders great in football and baseball. However from what I've read they have some really tall transfers on the hoops roster so lets see how that pans out.
 
Rmbr26 said:
The Demise of Bellarmine Football?

iamgeary - the effort required to post a teams post is next to nothing & I exceed the time & effort whenever I post a weekly update on the WCAL teams. Its no big deal for me as I enjoy and can't understand how they cannot find a single individual for each school's team to post their stats[?].
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The right kid for this low effort task youre asking for may not exist anymore. Some attributes may be the kid loves sports, reads the Sporting Green every morning, loves numbers and data, and is shown appreciation by his peers/coaches.

Search goes on for this kid.
 
colhenrylives said:
The Bellarmine slide cannot continue a whole lot longer. It has to be something the school's thousands of loyal alums/donors cannot abide. It has become a stigma, a blot on the Jesuit sporting legacy in San Jose. The once-dominant Bells, a legendary NorCal power, have lost 15 of their last 21 WCAL games, some of them by large margins. Serra, a one-time regular victim of the Bellarmine juggernaut, is once again poised to apply a dose of wood Friday night. When will the Bells, with the largest all-boys parochial student body in NorCal, be competitive at the top of the league again? Not in 2019. Next year? It's unclear. The clock is ticking.
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The only thing I can piece together with Bellarmine football is that kneel down controversy was a cliffhanger for the program. Someone mentioned previously that one of the coaches might have supported a kneel down.

That's heresay of course but after 18 seasons together as a coaching staff and abysmal results on the field I have to ask, is the administration and alumni demanding change yet?

It appears to me, that the school simply does not see football as a priority anymore. Anyone close to the program have the real scoop, is it coaching, lack of interest by students etc.
 
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Santa Ball said:
The only thing I can piece together with Bellarmine football is that kneel down controversy was a cliffhanger for the program. Someone mentioned previously that one of the coaches might have supported a kneel down.

That's heresay of course but after 18 seasons together as a coaching staff and abysmal results on the field I have to ask, is the administration and alumni demanding change yet?

It appears to me, that the school simply does not see football as a priority anymore. Anyone close to the program have the real scoop, is it coaching, lack of interest by students etc.
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Hard to imagine a school like Bellarmine with its great football legacy just not caring about football anymore or making it a low priority. The howling from the football alums alone would generate a call to action.
 
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Hard to imagine a school like Bellarmine with its great football legacy just not caring about football anymore or making it a low priority. The howling from the football alums alone would generate a call to action.
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Good point, I hope things will change for the Bells soon.
 
remc said:
Hard to imagine a school like Bellarmine with its great football legacy just not caring about football anymore or making it a low priority. The howling from the football alums alone would generate a call to action.
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Is it possible the football kids that people are accustomed to going to Bellarmine are not going to VC? Ive felt in years when SH football had "good" seasons that it was primarily due to football kids who normally wouldve gone to Riordan, picking SH. I forget the name of the pop warner team in the city/south city but alot of the really talented players that have come through SH/Riordan have played there.
 
iamgearyblvd said:
Is it possible the football kids that people are accustomed to going to Bellarmine are not going to VC? Ive felt in years when SH football had "good" seasons that it was primarily due to football kids who normally wouldve gone to Riordan, picking SH. I forget the name of the pop warner team in the city/south city but alot of the really talented players that have come through SH/Riordan have played there.
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Might be the rams, south city if I recall correctly. Bellarmine is also a school with strict/stricter academic standards. Perhaps some of the 2.8 student athletes decide to go elsewhere.
 
There was the San Bruno Rams which I think became the bay city Rams or something like that ...I believe I read on this msg board a few years ago that they moved to San Mateo.
 
Rmbr26 said:
WCAL Football 2019-20: Schools with declining acknowledgement of their Football teams [?]

A few observations:

Pop Warner fading fast. This translates to less involvement at higher levels. (at least in our Nanny state)

If the head coach does not want stats circulated, who is going to go against him? (and still expect to start) How would they obtain game video?

Valley and others recruit at the Pop Warner level, smart.

SERIOUS football players do NOT choose Bellarmine as a launching pad to Div. 1 football.

There is only one person responsible for holding back Bellarmine Football.
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Not showing much in the way of local games on NFHS this evening with the only WCAL game being SF-SHC.
#8 CCS Half Moon Bay at 4-0 is also on vs San Mateo 4-0 - though the game is not expected to be close with HMB having beaten SHP by 40-0 the week after SHP defeated S.I.
Folsom vs Rocklin on which should be entertaining. THose games are all on 7PM.

That's about it folks & If anyone knows of any games live-steamed elsewhere please post the website or link, Thx-
 
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Not showing much in the way of local games on NFHS this evening with the only WCAL game being SF-SHC.
#8 CCS Half Moon Bay at 4-0 is also on vs San Mateo 4-0 - though the game is not expected to be close with HMB having beaten SHP by 40-0 the week after SHP defeated S.I.
Folsom vs Rocklin on which should be entertaining. THose games are all on 7PM.

That's about it folks & If anyone knows of any games live-steamed elsewhere please post the website or link, Thx-
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Then, today, SHP thrashes Terra Nova, 42-10.
 
Rmbr26 said:
Not showing much in the way of local games on NFHS this evening with the only WCAL game being SF-SHC.
#8 CCS Half Moon Bay at 4-0 is also on vs San Mateo 4-0 - though the game is not expected to be close with HMB having beaten SHP by 40-0 the week after SHP defeated S.I.
Folsom vs Rocklin on which should be entertaining. THose games are all on 7PM.

That's about it folks & If anyone knows of any games live-steamed elsewhere please post the website or link, Thx-
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Strange that NFHS is carrying the Bells frosh Saturday game vs. Serra, no coverage for a Friday night varsity match...
 
Rmbr26 said:
Not showing much in the way of local games on NFHS this evening with the only WCAL game being SF-SHC.
#8 CCS Half Moon Bay at 4-0 is also on vs San Mateo 4-0 - though the game is not expected to be close with HMB having beaten SHP by 40-0 the week after SHP defeated S.I.
Folsom vs Rocklin on which should be entertaining. THose games are all on 7PM.

That's about it folks & If anyone knows of any games live-steamed elsewhere please post the website or link, Thx-
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Mitty is streaming their game tonight vs. Riordan
https://www.youtube.com/AMHSlive?uid=kNPdrSQ1c32ikfBMvPAHQw&app=desktop
 
The Serra-Bells game started on NFHS almost 6 minutes into the game with Serra up 15-0.
First couple plays & its ugly immediately - it almost looks like Serra is playing the Bells JV's. Bells run for no gain, then run and a loss of a couple & then QB is dropped for 8 yard loss & Bells punt from deep inside their own red zone. Serra now starts at Bells 34. Hope Janda brought his pepto with him...gonna need it
 
Serra 22-0 in the 2nd. Bells have the ball and just had 3 off-sides penalties in a row which there is no excuse for & now 1rst & 25 deep in their own territory..

Serra receives a punt and 3 plays later a bubble screen to Loville for a 38 yard TD to make it 29-0 Serra
 
Wow - Riordan takes it down field on a long drive with a pass play for a TD and now 10-7 Mitty with 4 min to go in 1/2.
Looks like we have a ball game!
 
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"jordan24[/B], post: 244041, member: 140"]R goes for it on 4th down. AZ to Maranghi - TD! Riordan 14 Mitty 10 @ the half
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Watching in between 2 other games jordan & I am in shock the Crusaders lead Mitty at the 1/2 - Riordan playing motivated and Mitty is ... not - Monarch's look flat. BUT - can the Crusaders keep the momentum in the 2nd 1/2??
 
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