CCS Finals/Regional Berths

[Cal 14]

It will be interesting to see what happens to the LCI over the next couple of years for the Mount Hamilton. 2017 had to be the worst in the history of the league. Would the CCS actually downgrade them to B status if they duplicate this in 2018?

I see all of their teams losing in the first round.

 

[NorCalSportsFan]

Oak Grove's offense was decimated with loss of 4 star RB (Washington) who transferred to Trinity Christian HS in Texas (NFL Hall of Famer Deion Sanders is the O Coordinator) and their other top RB who transferred out this year. However, MHAL was definitely down. DeAnza was down as well with exception of Milpitas and a decent Wilcox (but Los Gatos and Paly are down). It seems CCS in general is down this year with exception of a few teams, but no elite evel teams this year. Maybe Serra picked things up and can compete.

Not sure who would be put up in A league in place of the MHL. It seems to be the trough of a down cycle.

 

[RoodyPoo]

Every league has cycles. The BVAL Mt. Hamilton has been on a down cycle for this season. However, if you look at last season's LCI, you'll see the Mt. Hamilton was ranked higher than the PAL Bay. Same thing the year before that. The other factor is that the BVAL is a 3-tier league. CCS would not allow the BVAL (or any multi-tiered league) to have two A, B or C divisions. Until section by-laws are changed or realignment occurs, the Mt. Hamilton will continue to be an A league.

 

[joebl]

Every league has cycles. The BVAL Mt. Hamilton has been on a down cycle for this season. However, if you look at last season's LCI, you'll see the Mt. Hamilton was ranked higher than the PAL Bay. Same thing the year before that. The other factor is that the BVAL is a 3-tier league. CCS would not allow the BVAL (or any multi-tiered league) to have two A, B or C divisions. Until section by-laws are changed or realignment occurs, the Mt. Hamilton will continue to be an A league.

Per the bylaws, if Pal-Ocean has better LCI average they should move up to A and MHAL would move down to B. However, there is a clause that allows for moving a league up/down by vote: "At the CCS Football Evaluation Meeting, if the CCS Football Committee believes that the Classification of any league is a significant misplacement based on the outcome of the LCI of that league, they may, by a 2/3 vote of the Committee members present and voting, move a league one classification up or down."

The LCI is about as accurate as Playoff Power Points - wish they would get rid of both and use Freeman Rankings which is much more accurate at determining the strength of teams/leagues.

 

[SpeedCity51]

The MBL and MTAL are merging next year and will have 4 tiers, meaning they will guaranteed have either 2 B or C leagues.

CCS would not allow the BVAL (or any multi-tiered league) to have two A, B or C divisions. Until section by-laws are changed or realignment occurs, the Mt. Hamilton will continue to be an A league.

 

[Pigskins&Leather Helmets]

If they do in fact merge, I would suspect an A League, 2 B Leagues (North and South) and a C League. The geographical area of that league is large, 90 miles from the most Northern to the most Southern school.

 

[SpeedCity51]

If they do in fact merge, I would suspect an A League, 2 B Leagues (North and South) and a C League. The geographical area of that league is large, 90 miles from the most Northern to the most Southern school.

They are merging.

 

[831ccschamp]

From everything that I have heard the two B leagues aren't going to be based on geographical area. They B leagues are supposed to be based upon records.

 

[831ccschamp]

Regarding the realignment this is John Devine's of the Monterey County Heralds Prepnation blog post from 9/28/17

With the Monterey Bay League becoming a 29-team, four division league for football in 2018, here is what it COULD look like.

Division I
1. San Benito
2. Salinas:
3. Palma:
4. Aptos:
5. Alvarez:
6. Monte Vista:
7. Christopher:
8. Gilroy:

Division II
1. Seaside:
2. Scotts Valley:
3. Soledad:
4. Carmel:
5. North Salinas:
6. Monterey:
7. Watsonville:

Division III
1. Alisal:
2. King City:
3. San Lorenzo Valley:
4. St. Francis, Watsonville:
5. Pacific Grove:
6. Stevenson:
7. North County:

Division IV
1. Soquel:
2. Gonzales:
3. Greenfield:
4. Santa Cruz:
5. Marina:
6. Pajaro Valley:
7. Harbor:

 

[Cal Husker]

Question for PALbooster....
Does SHC have to win to get into the playoffs or will their 21 points get them in?

 

[831ccschamp]

Question for PALbooster....
Does SHC have to win to get into the playoffs or will their 21 points get them in?

According to Prep2prep

Sacred Heart Cathedral (85%): The Irish are in a tricky spot because even a win over Mitty will not guarantee an automatic bid, but would almost certainly clinch an at-large bid. For the automatic bid, SHC would need a win and a Bellarmine loss to St. Ignatius. Even with a loss, SHC could get in with losses by at least two of the following: Leigh, Sacred Heart Prep, Terra Nova, Bellarmine

 

[Cal Husker]

Thanks 831 ccschamp. Is it me or does prep2prep seem to be off on the point values for some teams? At this point I trust PALbooster a little more.

 

[carmelkyd]

On the surface an "equity" league seems to make good sense but they really never end up being equitable. Politics come into play. Emotions get involved. And instead of next year's divisions being simply being defined by equity, teams are being placed by enrollment, by geography, by history and any number of non-equity factors. After all, who wants to see a school with the rich history of a PG or a Monterey relegated to a C league? Even if they were 1 and 9 this year with their one win coming against a school with a mediocre record in a C league.

Equity leagues result in what we down here in southern CCS call the Seaside effect. Win the Pacific division...move up to the Gabilan...get your ass kicked...and moved down to the Pacific division the following year. (Thankfully a solid Seaside team this year has performed so well that they get to play in the Open Division play-offs and stay in the Gabilan division next year...breaking the Seaside effect.)

Equity leagues place small schools with big schools. And where this really hurts in with the small schools JV programs. Small schools often have their best sophomores playing on varsity. Small schools seldom have pure freshman teams. This results in the big schools (with their pure freshman teams) having JV teams that are virtually all sophomores. These all sophomore teams have a huge advantage against a small school's JV team that might be 75% freshman. So the big school's all sophomore JV team kicks the small school's mostly freshman JV team. The small school's JV team finishes the season with losing records and if this happens for multiple seasons, middle schoolers (AND THEIR PARENTS) see fewer reasons to go out for football and overall participation at small schools suffers.

Equity leagues lead to significant changes in rivalry game schedules. So not only would the Shoe Game be played in early September, but as a team like King City found out this year, when their rival plays in a C league then they end up getting zero power points for playing a C league team. And when at-large bids (especially in the D IV and D V play-offs) are so limited every power point counts. (13 of the 16 spots in the D IV/ V play-offs are filled by automatic qualifiers leaving just 3 slots to be filled by at-large teams.)

Now having said that, I continue to advocate that if you want this to be an equity league, then take politics, emotion and history out of it by setting up the leagues based on regular season ending maxpreps or calpreps computer model results. Let teams petition to move up or down based on equity related factors like number of graduating seniors or JV team record. But a team cannot move up if the lowest ranked team in the upper division does not want to move down...or vice versa.

While the regular season will end next Saturday, here is where the computer ranks southern area teams now.

Assuming the Gabilan Division has 8 teams here are the 2018 divisions: Number in ( ) is their state rank according to maxpreps.

A League

Salinas (151)
Aptos (189)
Palma (256)
Gilroy (282)
Hollister (326)
Seaside (375)
Christopher (396)
Soledad (446)

B League

Carmel (497)
Scotts Valley (522)
MVC (551)
Alisal (564)
Alvarez (600)
King City (664)
North Salinas (720)

B League

SLV (748)
St Francis (749)
Watsonville (764)
RLS (848)
Monterey (849)
Santa Cruz (871)
Marina (885)

C League

NMC (911)
Gonzales (938)
PG (945)
Soquel (950
Greenfield (963)
Pajaro Valley (1018)
Harbor (1030)

 

[831ccschamp]

Thanks 831 ccschamp. Is it me or does prep2prep seem to be off on the point values for some teams? At this point I trust PALbooster a little more.

Palbooster is def more accurate but prep2prep always does their projections as if the playoffs would be that week. My question is whether or not the CCS seeding have always been this crazy and if not why are they now. I think it's because of all the equity leagues?

 

[PALbooster]

Question for PALbooster....
Does SHC have to win to get into the playoffs or will their 21 points get them in?

She should get in the playoffs but their situation is complicated. If Bellarmine wins and SHC wins Bellarmine gets an automatic spot and SHC is in. If Mitty beats SHC they get the last automatic spot and then SHC doesn't get into the playoffs until Bellarmine is drawn into the field as WCAL guidelines says the teams are presented in order of league finish and if Mitty wins Bellarmine is ahead of SHC. In that case SHC is better off with Bellarmine having 20 points (if they beat SI). Rather than 18 if they lose to SI. If both Bellarmine and SHC lose it may be tough for SHC to get in. The key games that will impact this are Westminster vs Santa Teresa and the PAL bay games with Burlingame, Terra Nova and SHP

 

[colhenrylives]

She should get in the playoffs but their situation is complicated. If Bellarmine wins and SHC wins Bellarmine gets an automatic spot and SHC is in. If Mitty beats SHC they get the last automatic spot and then SHC doesn't get into the playoffs until Bellarmine is drawn into the field as WCAL guidelines says the teams are presented in order of league finish and if Mitty wins Bellarmine is ahead of SHC. In that case SHC is better off with Bellarmine having 20 points (if they beat SI). Rather than 18 if they lose to SI. If both Bellarmine and SHC lose it may be tough for SHC to get in. The key games that will impact this are Westminster vs Santa Teresa and the PAL bay games with Burlingame, Terra Nova and SHP

My head hurts. Again. Tylenol, please.

 

[831ccschamp]

She should get in the playoffs but their situation is complicated. If Bellarmine wins and SHC wins Bellarmine gets an automatic spot and SHC is in. If Mitty beats SHC they get the last automatic spot and then SHC doesn't get into the playoffs until Bellarmine is drawn into the field as WCAL guidelines says the teams are presented in order of league finish and if Mitty wins Bellarmine is ahead of SHC. In that case SHC is better off with Bellarmine having 20 points (if they beat SI). Rather than 18 if they lose to SI. If both Bellarmine and SHC lose it may be tough for SHC to get in. The key games that will impact this are Westminster vs Santa Teresa and the PAL bay games with Burlingame, Terra Nova and SHP

Has CCS always had all these complicated scenios possible and if not why is this year so crazy?

 

[SpeedCity51]

Has CCS always had all these complicated scenios possible and if not why is this year so crazy?

Probably has a lot to do with the fires. Remember, normally this week the regular season is already done and the playoff fields are set.

 

[831ccschamp]

Probably has a lot to do with the fires. Remember, normally this week the regular season is already done and the playoff fields are set.

The fires and in week two with some teams forfeiting due to heat I get but I still feel like equity leagues are a possibility for instance mission trail and the Santa Cruz leagues merging together.

 

[carmelkyd]

Last year both the Mission Trail league and the Santa Cruz league each had two automatic qualifiers. This year, following the merger of those two leagues, the Mission portion of the league had two automatic qualifiers and the Coastal portion had one automatic qualifier.

So last year there were 14 teams who auto qualified for the D IV / V and 2 who got in at-large. This year there were 13 AQ's and 3 at-large.

Not sure the impact on an increase in "complicated scenarios". I'd be more inclined to chalk it up to fire, heat and coincidence.

 

[joebl]

Has CCS always had all these complicated scenios possible and if not why is this year so crazy?

Not sure this is any more crazy than previous years. Several times there have been complex scenarios to get in with the last week of regular season coming up. I think the craziness is due to the lousy point system being used more than the consolidation of the leagues.

 

[Mr Murph]

I think the craziness is due to the lousy point system being used more than the consolidation of the leagues.

Bingo! The outdated CCS point system needs to be updated or completely eliminated. Any model that would award a team the same number points for playing Mater Dei as it would [insert any CCS A league team here] is a joke.

As someone pointed out earlier, the current system is strictly based on win/loss record. That's not a true indicator of how strong an opponent is. IMHO, a more reasonable selection process might look something like this.

1. All CCS league champions qualify.
2. Automatic qualifiers based on individual league by-laws qualify.
3. At-large qualifiers AND seeding would be based on win/loss record and strength of schedule (SOS)
4. SOS would be determined by a panel of people that apply objective data (sources such as calpreps.com and the current LCI) to the decision-making process.
5. Keep the divisions as they currently are, or forget about enrollment and put the strongest teams in DI and work down from there.

I'm sure there are several other ways, but the current system which at its core has been in place for almost 20 years needs an overhaul. The landscape is quite different now with regional qualification and all of the inter-sectional play, which many of us high school football fans in Nor Cal enjoy.

 

[831ccschamp]

CCS play-off projections after week 9

With two weeks to go (and the SF vs Riordan game still to play in week 9) the play-off picture is getting fairly clear. The open divisions have played out as expected over the past few weeks. The power points will make a difference. In addition to changing the seeding the power points are the likely determinant around which two of the three sectional final losers will move onto regional play.

Current projections show three teams tied for the final two at-large spots between Bellarmine, Leigh, and Burlingame. I would like to find out if the WCAL is still only putting teams forward based on their league standings. If that is the case, then SHC would not be put into the field until Bellarmine is in and if Bellarmine is the last team in then all three teams at 20 points would get in (Burlingame, Leigh, and Bellarmine) and SHC would be out.

Open Division I W/O Bellarmine
8. Palo Alto 3-7 19 VS 1. Milpitas 10-0 31.5
5. Wilcox 7-3 24.5 vs 4. San Benito 7-3 25
6. Menlo-Atherton 6-4 22.5 vs 3. Piedmont Hills 8-2 26
7. Los Gatos 5-5 22 vs 2. Salinas 8-2 30.5

Open Division I with Bellarmine
8. Palo Alto 3-7 19 VS 1. Milpitas 10-0 31.5
5. Menlo-Atherton 6-4 22.5 vs 4. San Benito 7-3 25
6. Los Gatos 5-5 22 vs 3. Piedmont Hills 8-2 26
7. Bellarmine 5-5 20 vs 2. Salinas 8-2 30.5

Division II W/O Bellarmine
8. Leigh 5-5 20 vs 1. Serra 8-2 30
5. St. Francis 7-3 26 vs 4. Oak Grove 6-4 26.5
6. Westmont 7-3 23 or Mitty 6-4 23 vs 3. Valley Christian 8-2 26.5
7. Westmont 7-3 23 or Mitty 6-4 23 vs 2. Aragon 9-1 27.5

Division II W/O Leigh
8. Westmont 7-3 23 or Mitty 6-4 23 vs 1. Serra 8-2 30
5. St. Francis 7-3 26 vs 4. Oak Grove 6-4 26.5
6. Wilcox 7-3 24.5 vs 3. Valley Christian 8-2 26.5
7. Westmont 7-3 23 or Mitty 6-4 23 vs 2. Aragon 9-1 27.5

Division II W/O Burlingame
8. Leigh 5-5 20 vs 1. Serra 8-2 30
5. St. Francis 7-3 26 vs 4. Oak Grove 6-4 26.5
6. Wilcox 7-3 24.5 vs 3. Valley Christian 8-2 26.5
7. Mitty 6-4 23 vs 2. Aragon 9-1 27.5

Division III W/O Burlingame
8. Palma 5-5- 20.5 vs 1. Half Moon Bay 10-0 29.5
5. Seaside 6-4 22 vs 4. Live Oak 6-4 22.5
6. Sacred Heart Cathedral 5-5 21 vs 3. Westmont 7-3 23
7. Terra Nova 5-5 20.5 vs 2. Aptos 7-3 25

Division III W/Burlingame
8. Burlingame 6-4 20 vs 1. Half Moon Bay 10-0 29.5
5. Sacred Heart Cathedral 5-5 21 vs 4. Seaside 6-4 22
6. Terra Nova 5-5 20.5 vs 3. Live Oak 6-4 22.5
7. Palma 5-5- 20.5 vs 2. Aptos 7-3 25

DeAnza

Milpitas and Wilcox have clinched their play-off spots and Milpitas will be sole league champion with a win over Homestead. Los Gatos, Homestead and Palo Alto are currently tied for third with two games left, but Homestead will be a decided underdog against Los Gatos and Milpitas. Los Gatos plays winless Saratoga and Homestead, While Palo Alto closes out against Los Altos who is winless in league and Wilcox. Los Gatos and Palo Alto figure to get the final two spots.

Gabilan

Salinas, Aptos, San Benito and Palma have clinched the four at-large spots. Salinas plays Aptos for the league championship this week while Palma squares of with San Benito for third place. Seaside plays Monte Vista Christian. Seaside sits with 20 points while MVC has 18. A Seaside win will give them an at-large berth. A MVC win will put both teams on the bubble at 20 with MVC having a tiebreaker over Seaside. A Seaside win gives them an at large spot with 22 points.

Mount Hamilton

This league is far from decided. Currently Oak Grove is alone in first place at 4-1 and is favored in its last two games against Westmont and Leigh. Piedmont Hills (Santa Teresa and Pioneer) Westmont (Oak Grove and Santa Teresa) and Live Oak (Pioneer and Lincoln) are currently tied for 2nd at 3-2 and favored to get the final 3 AQ spots. Currently Pioneer and Santa Teresa are 2-3 in league and need to win their last two games as underdog to make the field. Leigh will be on the bubble if they split their final two games against Lincoln and Oak Grove)

PAL Bay

Half Moon Bay is the last undefeated team in the league with games remaining against Sacred Heart Prep and Terra Nova. HMB, Menlo-Atherton, and Aragon have clinched three of the leagues four automatic spots. The last spot will come down to Sacred Heart Prep (1-3), Burlingame (1-3), and Terra Nova (0-3). It is likely that the winner of the Burlingame and Terra Nova game in week 11 will get the final AQ spot. Burlingame and Terra Nova need to get one more win to have a chance at a wild card spot.

WCAL

Serra is the only team with mathematical certainty of having clinched a spot, but it is highly likely that St. Francis and Valley Christian will have automatic spots. The remaining St. Francis vs Serra game will determine if Serra is the sole champion or ends up as co-champion or Tri-Champion. Currently Bellmarine (St. Francis and SI left) and Mitty (Valley Christian and SHC left )are tied for 4th at 2-3 with two games left and Mitty holding the tiebreaker over Bellarmine. Bellarmine and SHC (Riordan and Mitty) need to get at least one win in their final two games to have a chance at an at-large spot. If either team gets two wins they will be assured an at-large spot. Riordan would have to win their 3 remaining games (SF, VC and SHC) to make the play-offs.

Division IV
8. Alisal 6-4 20 vs 1. Leland 9-1 25.5
4/5 Carlmont 9-1 21.5 vs 4/5 Branham 7-3 21.5.
6. Santa Clara 7-3 20.5 vs 3.Willow Glen 8-2 22.5
7. Cupertino 7-3 20.5 vs 2. Christopher 8-2 23

Division V
8. Sobrato 8-2 19.5 vs 1. Gilroy 10-0 26.5
5. St. Francis 9-1 21.5 vs 4. Hillsdale 8-2 22
6. Soledad 7-3 20.5 vs 3. Scotts Valley 7-3 23
7. Jefferson 8-1 19.93 vs 2. Menlo 8-2 25.5

El Camino

Cupertino clinches a play-off berth with a win next week over Monta Vista. If Santa Clara beats Cupertino in week 10 they will likely be co-champions. If Cupertino beats Santa Clara it will drop Santa Clara into a likely second place tie with Mountain View and Fremont. In this case Fremont would likely win the tiebreaker with 18.5 points vs Santa Clara 18 and Mountain View 16.5

Mission Trail

With one week of play left in this league it looks like Soledad and Scotts Valley will end as co-champions unless there is a massive upset in week 10. In week 10 Scotts Valley ends with San Lorenzo Valley and Soledad ends with Stevenson. Carmel will need a lot of help to make the play-offs and is likely going to come up short for an at-large berth. If they win their shoe game against Pacific Grove the most they can end up is 19.5 points. Carmel will need Scotts Valley, Soledad or Carlmont to lose to have a chance.

Coastal

The winner of the St. Francis and Santa Cruz game will take the leagues only play off spot. St. Francis will be a big favorite.

Monterey Bay Pacific

Gilroy will be heavily favored in their final two games against North Monterey County and Watsonville still on their schedule and clinch a play off spot with one win. Alisal finished their season and can do no worst than second and is in the play-offs. If Christopher beats Monterey in their final game they will be the top at-large team with 23 points. Christopher might also get in as an at-large even with a loss.

PAL Lake

Jefferson has clinched the leagues sole play-off berth. Their final point total and seeding will be predicated on how Mission of SF ends their league season and if Jefferson beats Kings Academy this week. Carlmont still is in good shape for an at-large berth but they must win out and beat Sequoia and Mills to end the season 9-1. San Mateo is projected to end the season at 19 points and will need a win against Burlingame to bump that to 21 points and have a better chance at an at-large berth.

PAL Ocean

Menlo clinched a play-off berth with their win over previously undefeated Hillsdale. Hillsdale gets the second spot if they beat Kings Academy in week 10. Kings Academy would need to upset Hillsdale in week 10 and have South San Francisco lose to winless Woodside.

Santa Teresa

With two weeks left there is a four way tie for first among Leland, Willow Glen, Independence and Branham all have 4-1 league records. Willow Glen plays Independence this week and in week 11 Branham plays Leland. The winner of these two games will likely be league co-champions. Leland, Branham and Willow Glen all have a good chance to make it as an at-large if they lose out on a share of the league title.

West Valley

Sobrato only has to win one of its final two games against Mt. Pleasant or Evergreen Valley to gain the leagues only play-off berth.

Projected at-large berths

1. Christopher 8-2 23 points
2. Carlmont 9-1 21.5 points
3. Branham 7-3 21.5 points
4. Carmel 6-4 19.5 points
5. San Mateo 7-3 19 points

Menlo and Soledad both have 21.5 who gets the tie breaker or how would that situation work out?

 

[SPortela24]

Menlo lost and TKA beat Hillsdale.

TKA and Hillsdale are now both 3-2 in PAL Ocean Division play. I am assuming TKA is going to get that 2nd bid since they own the tie breaker over Hillsdale.

Can we have update Division V projections?

 

[PALbooster]

Thursday night action put went as projected for the A leagues and the final automatic berths were decided for the Mount Hamilton and Deanza leagues as Westmont and Los Gatos guaranteed spots. Terra Nova also clinched a spot either as the last PAL Bay automatic qualifier or as an at-large team due to tiebreaker over Burlingame. The field is the same as the last projections for the open divisions

Today the four WCAL games and SHP-HMB game will determine the final spots in the field. Going into today:

SHC -21 (plays Mitty) - win and they are in. The only scenario that can keep them out is if SHP wins and pushes Burlingame and Terra Nova into the at-Large pool and Bellarmine wins and is the last at-large drawn into he field after TN And Burlingame - leaving SHC out. If Bellarmine losses I believe SHC would be the first WCAL wild card as it would be a three way tie between SHC, Bellarmine and SI with no head to head winner and SHC with the most CCS points.
Burlingame - 20(season finished) - In with a SHP loss or Bellarmine loss. Out if SHP and Bellarmine win and they lose draw to Bellarmine
Bellarmine - 18 (Plays SI) - In with a win over SI. With a loss they would be in a draw with SHP and Leigh if SHP losses. With a loss they are out with an SHP win.
SHP - 18 (plays Half Moon Bay) - gains AQ with win over HMB. With loss they would only get in with a Bellarmine loss and if they won a draw against Bellarmine and Leigh
Leigh -18 (season finished) - Need a Bellarmine loss and a SHP loss and then win draw against both teams.

Projected Playoff field
Open Division I
8. Palo Alto 3-7 19 vs 1 Milpitas 10-0 31.5
5. Menlo-Atherton 6-4 22.5 vs San Benito 6-4 23
6. Los Gatos 5-5 22 vs 3. Piedmont Hills 8-2 26
7. Bellarmine 5-5 20 vs 2. Salinas 8-2 30.5

Open Division II
8. Mitty 6-4 23 or Westmont 7-3 23 vs 1. Serra 8-2 30
5. St Francis 7-3 26 vs 4. Oak Grove 6-4 26.5
6. Wilcon 7-3 24.5 vs 3. Valley Christian 8-2 26.5
7. Mitty 6-4 23 or Westmont 7-3 23 vs 2. Aragon 9-1 27.5

A lot at play in the last week with seeding in this division. Aragon plays MA in a competitive game – this projection assumes they win if they lose they drop to 25.5. If St. Francis beats Serra the WCAL school points go SF 28.33, Serra 27,33 and VC 26.83 and OG 26.83.

Open Division III
8. Bulringame 6-4 20 vs 1. Half Moon Bay 10-0 29.5
4/5 Seaside 6-4 22.5 vs 4/5 Live Oak 6-4 22.5
6. Sacred Heart Cathedral 5-5 21 vs 3. Palma 6-4 23.5
7. Terra Nova 5-5 20 vs 2. Aptos 7-3 25.5
Non-Open Divisions

Sequoia upset Menlo and Kings Academy upset Hillsdale but the only impact was to drop Hillsdale from a projected 3 seed to a 4 seed. Leland and Independence ended up as automatic qualifiers and co-champions of the Santa Teresa league. The at-large berths go to Christopher, Willow Glen and Branham as expected.

The only game that effects the field is today's game between Cupertino and Santa Clara. A Cupertino win puts them in the field as sole champion and gets Fremont into the play-offs as the leagues second automatic qualifier. A Santa Clara win makes them league co-champion with Cupertino and puts them in the play-offs. The Division V field is set and the Division IV field is as projected before.

Projected Field
Division IV if Santa Clara wins tonight
8. Willow Glen 7-3 20 vs 1. Leland 9-1 25.5
4/5 Santa Clara, Cupertino, Alisal or Independence 20.5
6. 5 Santa Clara, Cupertino, Alisal or Independence 20.5 vs 3. Branham 7-3 21.5
7. 5 Santa Clara, Cupertino, Alisal or Independence 20.5 vs 2. Christopher 8-2 23

4 way tie at 20.5 points between Santa Clara, Cupertino, Alisal and Independence

If Cupertino wins tonight

8. Fremont 6-4 19 vs 1. Leland 9-1 25.5
5. Alisal or Independence 20.5 vs 4. Branham 7-3 22
5 Alisal or Independence 20.5 vs 3. Christopher 8-2 or Cupertino 8-2 23
7. Willow Glen 7-3 20 vs 2. Christopher 8-2 or Cupertino 8-2 23

Final Division V Field

8. Santa Cruz 5-5 15 vs 1. Gilroy 10-0 26.5
5. Sobrato 8-2 19.5 or Scotts Valley 6-419.5 vs 4. Hillsdale 7-3 20.5
6. Sobrato 8-2 19.5 or Scotts Valley 6-4 19.5 vs 3. Soledad 7-3 21
7. Jefferson 8-2 18.5 vs 2. Menlo 6-4 21.5

For the PAL Ocean Menlo is sole league champion finishing league at 4-1. Hillsdale, Kings Academy and South San Francisco all went 3-2 and tied for second. They were 1-1 in head to head against each other and Hillsdale gets the final spot with the most CCS points.

 

[PALbooster]

Menlo and Soledad both have 21.5 who gets the tie breaker or how would that situation work out?

I have Soledad with 21 points. 7 wins x 2 = 14
5 schedule points (Antioch only won 6 regular season games so they are classified as a B team) - Soledad played 8 B teams , one A team (Seaside) and one C team Greenfield).
2 points for winning their B league
21 points.

 

[pines6969]

PALBooster, thank you for the excellent work.

P2P lists SHC as having 19 points, but you have them at 21. Is P2P incorrect, or are you projecting that SHC will beat Mitty today?

 

[Cal Husker]

PALbooster you are amazing!
Can you check Live Oak's points? I have them at 22.5
6-4 = 12
7 A League games = 7
3 B league games = 1.5
2 Champions = OG and Gilroy = 2

 

[PALbooster]

PALBooster, thank you for the excellent work.

P2P lists SHC as having 19 points, but you have them at 21. Is P2P incorrect, or are you projecting that SHC will beat Mitty today?

SHC has 21 points entering play today

5 wins x2 =10
9 schedule points - 9 A teams (Fernley counts as an A, JS as a C)
1 C team
2 confernece champion points - WCAL + Fernley

 

[PALbooster]

PALbooster you are amazing!
Can you check Live Oak's points? I have them at 22.5
6-4 = 12
7 A League games = 7
3 B league games = 1.5
2 Champions = OG and Gilroy = 2

typo corrected they are at 22.5 and in a tie right now for the 4/5 seed in DIII open

 

[colhenrylives]

PAL Booster: A gifted mathematician worthy of the legacy of Newton. And Newton didn't know the single wing from a decimal point.

 

[Mr Murph]

PAL Booster, great work as always.

Here is the point total that I have for St. Francis if they beat Serra.

SF = 28.49
Wins: 8 x 2 = 16
A opponents: 10 x 1 = 10
League champ opponents: 1 x 1 = 1 (Oak Grove)
League tri-champ opponents: 2 x .33 = .66 (Serra and VC)
League tri-champs: + .83

Also for St. Francis, is CCS still giving a bonus point for playing De La Salle? I believe Serra and Bellarmine have been given this point in the past. St. Francis could have an extra point if that's the case.

 

[Pigskins&Leather Helmets]

PALBOOSTER, unless it is a reported JV score, looks like Santa Clara beat Cupertino 43-42, last night. What does that do to D4? Does this effect Wilcox in their seeding in D2?

 

[831ccschamp]

I have Soledad with 21 points. 7 wins x 2 = 14
5 schedule points (Antioch only won 6 regular season games so they are classified as a B team) - Soledad played 8 B teams , one A team (Seaside) and one C team Greenfield).
2 points for winning their B league
21 points.

Because Antioch is out of section they are given a B league status because of their record. Even though they are in what would be considered an A league for their section. Correct?

 

[PALbooster]

PALBOOSTER, unless it is a reported JV score, looks like Santa Clara beat Cupertino 43-42, last night. What does that do to D4? Does this effect Wilcox in their seeding in D2?

That was the outcome that was projected so Wilcox's points don't change. Look above and see the DIV field with Santa Clara in it. With that score the DIV and DV fields are set. For DIv IV i show a four way tie for 4th through 7th seeds with 20.5 points.

 

[PALbooster]

Because Antioch is out of section they are given a B league status because of their record. Even though they are in what would be considered an A league for their section. Correct?

Correct. For out of section games an A team has 7 regular season wins or more. A B team has 4 to 6 wins and a C team has 3 wins or less. Nothing else is factored in. Teams also get a point if there out of section opponent is a league champion

 

[PALbooster]

PAL Booster, great work as always.

Here is the point total that I have for St. Francis if they beat Serra.

SF = 28.49
Wins: 8 x 2 = 16
A opponents: 10 x 1 = 10
League champ opponents: 1 x 1 = 1 (Oak Grove)
League tri-champ opponents: 2 x .33 = .66 (Serra and VC)
League tri-champs: + .83

Also for St. Francis, is CCS still giving a bonus point for playing De La Salle? I believe Serra and Bellarmine have been given this point in the past. St. Francis could have an extra point if that's the case.

I think CCS did away with an extra point for playing DLS. I know this happened when DLS competed for the EBAL championship. When that stopped I am not aware of the CCS reinstating that rule. Saint Francis with a win will end at 28.5 points your math is right just go out one more decimal place

 

[Cal Husker]

PALbooster can you check Terra Nova's points. I have them at 22 and that would change the entire Open 3 bracket.

 

[831ccschamp]

Correct. For out of section games an A team has 7 regular season wins or more. A B team has 4 to 6 wins and a C team has 3 wins or less. Nothing else is factored in. Teams also get a point if there out of section opponent is a league champion

Do you feel that is a flaw though? The bay valley league is ranked as the 8th best league in California while the highest rated ccs league is west catholic at 15th. According to calpreps.com

 

[Mr Murph]

Thanks PAL Booster.

I thought CCS got rid of the DLS point too.