remc said:

Agree, but do you think that an Open appearance by CN in this year’s playoffs will lead to CN trying to compete in D1 every year going forward? I’m asking that based on the CN girls basketball program that you brought up. It takes a lot more resources and dedication to sustain football success. Though CN has long been established as a football power at the lower divisions, I don’t know if the demographics in that area can provide CN with enough to take the next step regularly. A good program that produces a team that punches above its weight for a season or two, doesn’t mean it belongs in The Open

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bella123 said:

Newman has always been known as a football school and have been dedicated to it’s success since Ed Lloyd showed up on campus.

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Irish_Cheers said:

Because then, they would be the "Blueberries" and blueberries are purple, and that's a Riordan color.

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THEOC89 said:

HA!…. Then Max Preps has ZERO credibility…. Folsom was at Full strength and got Boatraced by 30+ points by Grant….

Grant had multiple injuries of top players when they played Folsom again so 2 very different games…. No Top 5 Team in the Country gets Boatraced by a Non top 5 team…. You Folsom guys are trying too hard…. 🤣

I am sure not any other poll had Folsom even sniffing the top 10…. 30+ point loss and “National Top 5”…. 🤣🤣🤣

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remc said:

Id also venture that they more than likely increased their resources in order to elevate the program. Depends on how dedicated a program is to success.

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1tunz1 said:

I think the ‘opt into the Open,” idea is a good one, for all teams not D1 base enrollment. Or allow all 8 open teams to be eligble for selection to a divisional regional/state bracket, like girls basketball.

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PALbooster said:

Carmel YKD - thanks for the question. Most of the work is in the set up at the beginning and I find that waiting until week 6 to start the projections means there is not much work week to week to change projections as cal-rep rankings are proving out to be about 85% accurate. There are five point columns

1. Schedule - This moves very little. All CCS teams are set as A, B or C teams at the beginning of the year. Most non-CCS teams are pretty clear whether they are an A, B or C team. There are always a couple of bubble non-CCS teams that I have to track manually every year that hover between some of the categories.

2. Wins - I project this out after week six and every week there are usually 6-8 "upsets" that require adjustments. The bigger ripple is where an upset just doesn't reverse a win or a loss for the two teams involved but rankings change enough to change the projections for a handful of teams going forward for the end of the year.

3. League Championship Points - Part of the projections are projecting out the 13 CCS league champions. If these stay stable there are no adjustments, but when the projection of a league champion changes then I have manually adjust which opponents lose or gain points. Another hard part here that takes some time is checking non-CCS opponents that project to be league champions. For example McLymonds forfeit means that they are now a likely OAL co-Champion instead of easily projected Champion and Riordan and St. Francis loss 0.5 points from the original projection.

4. Top 100/150 bonus points - Again once you get to week 6 this stays pretty stable, but I do check the changes in the list from week to week of both CCS teams and Non-CCS opponents of CCS teams. So as teams on the border go in and out of the top 100 or top 150 points get adjusted accordingly. There are usually only a few teams that go back and forth or out of the rankings this late in the season.

5. CCS Calpreps ranking - Every week I do this. With the top and bottom rankings staying pretty stable but there is usually a lot of change between 11-30 and these cause changes in seeding or division placements.

All in all it takes about 3 hours to set up in Week 6 and then about an hour to 1.5 hours. week after that to track the changes - much is automated, but tables have to be changed manually

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remc said:

Id also venture that they more than likely increased their resources in order to elevate the program. Depends on how dedicated a program is to success.

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ChewpaMiverga said:

Riordan's Defense is figuring it out. Mitty does not have the horses to match up with anyone other than Bellarmine but they


"The Black Cherries"

I wonder why the hell they don't just go with Blue instead

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bella123 said:

I’d venture to guess Monica Mertle and the girls hoops program at Newman would strongly disagree. Rewind some years back when they first got pulled up to the open and there was talk of how they didn't belong.. The program today is much stronger now and has competed at that higher level year in and year out. Same with Newman’s baseball program they’ve stepped up and is becoming in Norcal blue blood.

Hell, I remember when Valley Christian was a NCS class A team football team. Then they moved to the CCS. I remember the first year the rumblings of them going to the WCAL and how they were going to get crushed. Same thing with Orange Lutheran football. I remember watching them when they were division 11 SS team. They challenged their program and elevated it. At some point, you need to step out of your comfort zone to get better.

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Jfoyosoul said:

I didn’t say I ranked them #5..we were talking about where they were ranked nationally by Maxpreps. I am going off memory ..i just went to maxpreps.com and looked up there team and they were indeed ranked #5 nationally in the 2010/2011 season…it has nothing to do with me or some kool aid..it was where they were ranked…oh and btw, they did turn around and beat that same nationally ranked grant team in the playoffs by 21 pts and then serra gardena…so no kool aid involved..just simple information we were discussing

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THEOC89 said:

HA!!!…. You are saying that 2010 Folsom who go Boatraced by 30+ points by Grant was ranked #5 in the Nation?….. So was Grant #1?….. 🤣

You Folsom guys are funny, The Blue Kool Aid is Flowing!!…. 🤣🤣

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CoachRandal said:

“Competitive Equity” is generally a lose lose for small enrollment schools. Enrollment still is a factor and correlated to computer rankings. With the exception of city schools a bigger enrollment provides a bigger pool of athletes. Small schools are either pulled up to play bigger schools or bigger schools are sent down. Thus a lose, lose. Also CE punishes success and rewards mediocrity. That being said small good schools should want to move up to challenge themselves but the system to move should be voluntary. What we are seeing now with CE is the Strong are getting stronger and the Weak are getting weaker. CN and MC will be driven by CE to get better and will probably accomplish it by attracting more players from weak public schools who will get worse. I like enrollment based divisions with a voluntary open to give the top teams the chance to compete to be #1. Right now the playoffs seem meaningless once you get below Open/D1 and perhaps D2. Attendance and interest in HS sports playoffs seems to be declining with this new system. League play is more interesting with its traditional league rivalries.

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RLS13 said:

PCAL Week 9

Before we get too far into this week’s preview wanted to share a great story about the King City head coach, and what he has done over the past year to support his family and his community. A great story about a really great man. Sometimes Highschool football is not about the wins and losses on the field.

https://www.montereyherald.com/2024/10/20/high-school-football-a-different-kind-of-comeback-story/

Last week 9-3 Overall 97-29

Gabilan- Some interesting story lines are starting to develop in the Gabilan. It appears Soquel and Salinas are destined for a title matchup on 11/1. Monterey seems to have secured at least third place, while Hollister, Aptos and Palma battle for 4th through 6th. PAL Booster says Palma is basically in the playoffs, but he has them at 5-5, I think they finish 4-6. Will that be enough for the final at-large bid? Maybe? Or does the steak end this year. Hopefully the PCAL will let Alvarez go down to a “B” division for a year or 2 in order to build some consistency.

Thu 10/24 Aptos (CA) at Alvarez (Salinas, CA), 7:00pm – Maybe Alvarez last best shot to win a league game. Also seems odd that Alvarez has to ply 3 Thursdays in a row, while Palma and Monterey don’t have any Thursday night games. Aptos needs to win to stay in the playoffs. Aptos 38-7

Fri 10/25 Soquel (CA) at Monterey (CA), 7:30pm- Potential trap here for Soquel. Monterey has some huge playmakers and they have been running the ball well lately. Soquel will do what they always do: dictate the pace of the game, control the line of scrimmage, and clamp down on defenses. Soquel 28-14

Fri 10/25 Arroyo Grande (CA) at Salinas (CA), 7:30pm- 2 schools of thought here: Great to keep the team rolling with a late out of section game against an historically strong program. Or what the hell are you thinking, take the bye get healthy and get ready for the biggest game of the year. If they beat Soquel in 2 weeks genius, if they lose worst scheduling decision ever. Salinas 28-24

Fri 10/25 Palma (Salinas, CA) vs Hollister (CA) at Salinas Sports Complex (Salinas, CA), 7:30pm- I view this (or next week vs Monterey) as an absolute must win for Palma to ensure a post season invite. Problem is, Hollister might be the better team this year. Hollister 27-21

Mission North (Watsonville Bye) -After a couple weeks of chaos, maybe some clarity in the Mission North. NMC will be favored over the next 3 weeks and should win the division. Alisal had a big win last week and will also be favored over the next 3 weeks to finish second. But don’t be surprised if either one of these teams’ falters and allows St Francis, MVC or Scott’s Valley to sneak into the playoffs.

Thu 10/24 Scotts Valley (CA) vs St. Francis (Watsonville, CA) at Cabrillo College (Aptos, CA), 7:30pm- Winner still can have an outside chance of playoffs, loser of this game is probably out. St Francis has been more consistent, but Scott’s Vally has played the tougher schedule. St. Francis 21-18

Fri 10/25 North Monterey County (Castroville, CA) at Monte Vista Christian (Watsonville, CA), 7:30pm- MVC QB and WR1 have some staggering numbers. Like leaders in the CCS and state. Congratulations to them. But NMC is 3-0 in division and probably going to the playoff’s. NMC 27-17

Fri 10/25 Alisal (Salinas, CA) at Seaside (CA), 7:30pm- Alisal had a goal line stand to win last week, probably wont be as close this week. Alisal 27-7

Mission South (PG Bye) – North Salinas took care of Business vs KC last week to set up a battle for first this week vs Carmel. Carmel did allow Ranch to score a season high 14 points last week, but it was in the 2nd half after they took a 41-0 lead into halftime. We will see if NS can really give them a battle. PG, lost for the 2nd time in a row vs Soledad. This sets up Soledad to challenge NS for a playoff spot in 2 weeks.

Fri 10/25 King City (CA) at Rancho San Juan (Salinas, CA), 7:30pm -Rancho may have found something to build on by scoring some touchdowns last week, meanwhile KC will look to get off the mat after being beat up by North Salinas. King City 24-7

Fri 10/25 Greenfield (CA) at Soledad (CA), 7:30pm- I can already smell the Swiss sausage. Leno’s vs Richina (if you know you know). As far as football: Soledad needs to win if it want to try an overtake NS for 2nd place. Soledad 28-24

Sat 10/26 North Salinas (Salinas, CA) at Carmel (CA), 2:00pm -Carmel can not let NS successfully control the clock. NS has 2 offenses one of them being a Wing T formation to try and control the line of scrimmage. The QB is still hurt so they will be trying to run a lot. It may work, But Carmel’s Starting defense is pretty good. Carmel will be able to score. Carmel 42-21

Santa Lucia (RLS BYE) -I understand why RLS starts late because of the boarding school deal, but schedule a game during the bye week for 10 total games. Mission is SF has an open date. Anyway after RLS took care of PV and SLV pulled away from Gonzales late, this should set up a battle for the title next week. @Streakone, RLS needs to go back on the pick’em next week!!! Also of note last week, is Santa Cruz got a win for the first time in 2 years!!

Sat 10/26 Gonzales (CA) at Pajaro Valley (Watsonville, CA), 12:30pm- This game will probably decide third place. Both teams will be looking to get momentum for next year. Gonzales 23-18

Sat 10/26 Santa Cruz (CA) at San Lorenzo Valley (Felton, CA), 2:00pm -Santa Cruz hada great win last week, but unless SLV is looking to far ahead to next weeks showdown with RLS, the wininig streak will stop at 1. SLV 35-7

Sat 10/26 Marina (CA) vs Harbor (Santa Cruz, CA) at Seaside (CA), 7:30pm -2 Struggling programs trying to find something to build upon for next year. Neither one really believes in Defense. Marina 45-40

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Streak One said:

Here are the scores for this week. We had a four way tie for first and the year long race is getting closer with two weeks left. Let me know of any scoring issues by noon on Monday

Cardinal Newman beat San Marin 31-3
Bishop O'Dowd beat Moreau Catholic 35-9
Pleasant Valley beat Foothill (Palo Cedro) 42-7
Merced beat Atwater 27-24
Jefferson beat Saratoga 24-0
St. Vincent beat Ukiah 35-24
Linden beat Calaveras 59-7
Chavez beat McNair 26-18
San Mateo beat Half Moon Bay 30-20
St. Ignatius beat Valley Christian 20-13

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espot 48
NorCalSportsFan 48
SearsPoints 46
carlmerritt 44
Folsom77 44
WCAL88 43
bulldogmgc 43
bella123 42
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RLS13 39
EN_FB_Alum 38
Cal 14 38
M.C. Fan 37
H.E.A.T. 37
Sacchiefs 37
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Macallan 35
MC415 34
209Tides 34
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thehookup55 31
kiddman32 30
sweetjfromthebay 29

Yearly Top 10:

1. THEOC89 463
2. FBAddict 453
3. NorCalSportsFan 447
4. SearsPoints 436
5. Kiddman32 434
6. Bulldogmgc 433
6. Folsom77 433
8. Irish_Cheers 431
9. 209Tides 430
10. WCAL88 429

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