West Coast Jamboree application
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Bingo... The middle of the field was tractor pull quality. Just a mud pit and the kid with the 1 inch screw in cleats had the only advantage.... Different world today.I always try to explain to the younger generation that the pass-happy spread offenses they’ve grown up in weren’t possible to run back in day due to field conditions.
Not only were all fields grass, many of them weren’t maintained all that well and had games being played on them all week long — often by 3-4 different schools. Divots and pot holes galore.
At one point in time, San Juan HS hosted San Juan, Bella Vista, Del Campo, Casa Roble, La Sierra, and Mesa Verde. El Camino HS hosted El Camino, Encina, Mira Loma, Rio Americano, and a few others I’m forgetting.
By midseason, the middle of the field was worn down completely and mostly just dirt. And then when the rain started falling in October and November — the field was a gigantic mud pit. Footing was terrible, and the speed of the game was slower as a result. Also, the ball was not only water-logged but covered in mud as well — no matter how much they tried to switch out or clean the footballs.
The difficulties with field and ball conditions was why the vast majority of programs ran run-oriented, ball control offenses.
I remember being at the 1984 D2 Championship between El Camino and Oakdale at Abbott Field. It was a cold, windy, rainy evening. The game ended in regulation at 0-0. EC ended up winning 6-0 in the old CA style OT.
Neither team could sustain sustain drives or avoid costly fumbles.
I also try to remind the younger generation that prior to the early 2000’s, only the top 2 teams from each league qualified for the postseason. A third place team from certain leagues could also make it, but it was on a rotational basis.
In 1996, Grant Union, Nevada Union and Del Campo ended the regular season in a 3-way tie in the Capital Athletic League at 6-1. All three teams were 9-1 overall. But the CAL didn’t get a 3rd playoff spot that season due to rotation, so the 2 participants were determined via a 3-way coin flip.
Nevada Union lost the coin flip. Imagine being 9-1 with your only loss being by 1-point on a last second play and you don’t qualify for the postseason?! Crazy thing is, that 1996 Miners team might have been among their very best teams of that era. Better than some of their section title winners. But they were ousted in a manner that wouldn’t happen today or at any point over the past 20 years.
My junior season in 1987 my team went 7-3 and 4-2 in a D1 league. We didn’t qualify for the postseason.
Between the superior field conditions, facility, weight room, and equipment improvements, and changes to the overtime and postseason systems — these kids have absolutely no idea how fortunate they are to be playing in this current era.
Its the purple drank @bella123 ..... I think I was getting mixed up withe Newman had the prior longest win streak in the state before DLS streak. Wasn't that in the 70-80s?Put the bottle down Larry 🤣, usually you are right on, but not on this one.
The original original streak for De La Salle reached 44 games and was broken at the Coliseum in the 87 NCS final by Monte Vista 14-13. The year before De La Salle had moved up to 3A and beat Monte Vista 24 to 7.
The ‘87 game had trick plays, bench clearing fight and came down to the wire on a controversial two point conversion attempt Rob Forrester was “stopped” by Steve Abrams at the pylon (personally think je was in). At the time De La Salle was chasing Cardinal Newman’s win streak which was 47 and at the time was a state record (ended by San Marin in ‘77 or ‘78).
DLS and Newman did play for the 2A title at the Coliseum in ‘84 . Vice and Vaez led Newman and Panella DLS. DLS beat them like 38-20.
If Pitt beats DLS, they will not only be 11-1 with their only loss being a tough battle (initially) to Bosco, but they’d be the first team in 34 years to beat DLS in the NCS playoffs. Certainly their ranking would improve with such a win, and it’s a better win than any of Folsom’s. The loss to Serra is way worse than losing to Bosco.CN has to beat SRV and the loser of the Pitt/DLS game to advance to norcal correct? That is just insane. The Newman vs MC game was better than 90% of the bowl games/teams will be and that was a 1st round section game. What a joke.
I also think if Pitt wins they go but Folsom is ranked higher in virtually every poll.
Its the purple drank @bella123 ..... I think I was getting mixed up withe Newman had the prior longest win streak in the state before DLS streak. Wasn't that in the 70-80s?Put the bottle down Larry 🤣, usually you are right on, but not on this one.
The original original streak for De La Salle reached 44 games and was broken at the Coliseum in the 87 NCS final by Monte Vista 14-13. The year before De La Salle had moved up to 3A and beat Monte Vista 24 to 7.
The ‘87 game had trick plays, bench clearing fight and came down to the wire on a controversial two point conversion attempt Rob Forrester was “stopped” by Steve Abrams at the pylon (personally think je was in). At the time De La Salle was chasing Cardinal Newman’s win streak which was 47 and at the time was a state record (ended by San Marin in ‘77 or ‘78).
DLS and Newman did play for the 2A title at the Coliseum in ‘84 . Vice and Vaez led Newman and Panella DLS. DLS beat them like 38-20.
I think that Crown Royale had something to do with that!Absolutely agree,dear lord that was unbelievable,but as seriously wet and cold as we all were on the outside…we were definitely warm on the INSIDE
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Absolutely agree,dear lord that was unbelievable,but as seriously wet and cold as we all were on the outside…we were definitely warm on the INSIDEOakdale ar Placer game the worst weather 2010. Ask Chanp. In high school Oakdale at St Mary's 1972.
Here are the games for this week. Picks are due at 7:00 PM on Friday. Game of the Week is De La Salle-Pittsburg
Turlock at Oak Ridge
Grant at St. Mary’s-Stockton
Manteca at Rocklin
St. Francis vs. St. Ignatius
Menlo vs. Palma
Los Gatos at Riordan
Hollister vs. Carmel
De La Salle vs. Pittsburg
Cardinal Newman at San Ramon Valley
Windsor at Amador Valley
moved the game to neutral site in Redwood City although it is North of Atherton and at 7PM instead of 1PM on Sat.Well, remember that there is always a 'predictive' algorithm that is different than the normal rating one. I'm unsure exactly how they're adding this bump, but clearly that Soquel team wasn't going to beat St. Francis as was predicted.
In no other CIF section would CN and MC be playing D4. At lowest, they'd be D2. The fact they've been allowed to beat up on small public schools for so long is amazing.How would you say the ncs privates have been coddled? And how would you divide teams into different levels of play?
Well, remember that there is always a 'predictive' algorithm that is different than the normal rating one. I'm unsure exactly how they're adding this bump, but clearly that Soquel team wasn't going to beat St. Francis as was predicted.Do you think there is an algorithm involved? It seems almost arbitrary. It seems like case- Palma rating hasn't been adjusted and below Menlo but Palma is favored. You would think they would adjust the score before the projection. Seems they go into the system and just adjust the projection.
Going to be a tad wet... But recall those days with the grass fields and the mud bowls this time of the year. At least with the field turf the game isn't nearly as impacted in monsoons.
How would you say the ncs privates have been coddled? And how would you divide teams into different levels of play?You keep going on and on about this. The point isn't to advance the top 7 teams out of the NCS and top 6 out of the CCS. The point is to advance teams out of the different levels of play. Seriously, you don't want the entire Trinity League advancing to state regional games, so you don't get the same in the NCS.
The NCS private schools have been coddled for far too long (maybe not the teams, but certainly the fans).
You keep going on and on about this. The point isn't to advance the top 7 teams out of the NCS and top 6 out of the CCS. The point is to advance teams out of the different levels of play. Seriously, you don't want the entire Trinity League advancing to state regional games, so you don't get the same in the NCS.CN has to beat SRV and the loser of the Pitt/DLS game to advance to norcal correct? That is just insane. The Newman vs MC game was better than 90% of the bowl games/teams will be and that was a 1st round section game. What a joke.
I also think if Pitt wins they go but Folsom is ranked higher in virtually every poll.