Antelope wins 72-43 according to SJS website. I see the same type score in the final vs Del Oro. Del Oro beat Laguna Creek 53-51.
Antelope cruises
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Do 4 teams go to Norcals from each division in the SJS?
Just curious in LC qualifies for norcal still?
Just curious in LC qualifies for norcal still?
Yes, they will be in Norcals as 4 from each division get a seed. It will be interesting where they get seeded after this loss. If they drop to D2, watch out. I would think they would be a low D1 seed though and would have tough time with some of the top seeds.
I would agree if LC gets put in D2 they will be formidable.
I guess it probably depends on if the CIF fills out the D1 bracket completely with all 16 spots. If LC had made the SJS D2 finals I would have thought Norcal D1 would be assured but now with the loss a round earlier I think D2 is more likely which actually plays out to their advantage.
Win for losing.....a competitive equity staple
I guess it probably depends on if the CIF fills out the D1 bracket completely with all 16 spots. If LC had made the SJS D2 finals I would have thought Norcal D1 would be assured but now with the loss a round earlier I think D2 is more likely which actually plays out to their advantage.
Win for losing.....a competitive equity staple
SJS will see LG placed in D2. I will be shocked if they are in D1. Which I can understand. My list for top SJS right now:
St. Mary’s
Antelope
Oak ridge
McClatchy
Granite Bay (two wins over Del Oro)
Del Oro
Christian Brothers
Laguna Creek
Vista del Lago
St. Mary’s
Antelope
Oak ridge
McClatchy
Granite Bay (two wins over Del Oro)
Del Oro
Christian Brothers
Laguna Creek
Vista del Lago
After the Open the CIF balances the NCS, CCS, and SJS. Outside of Saint Marys at least the top 4 to 5 SJS teams will be in D1
The top 5 to 7 teams in SJS will be open-D1.
Open will have 3 NCS, 2 CCS, 1 SJS
D1 will have say 4 NCS teams, 5 CCS and 5 SJS. Laguna is right on the D1-D2 bubble
With the CN win over Salesian tonight. That could potentially put Antelope as a 2nd team from SJS instead of 3 from NCS. If CN had lost they would have gone ahead af Antelope in the OPEN for sure with the h2h over Antelope. Now with CN winning that potentially opens up that final spot. If would not shock me if Antelope gets it. 2 from NCS. 2 from CCS. 2 from SJS.
And Salesian would be doing cartwheels as the 1 seed in D1.
And Salesian would be doing cartwheels as the 1 seed in D1.
But why would Salesian go over Pinewood if the committee uses head to head? There's still an argument for 3 NCS and 1 CCS...
Curious why all of these posts have Nor Cal sending 6 teams? It’s a 16 team bracket with 8 in the North and 8 in the South. Why is everyone speculating on which 6 are going?
Last year the North only sent 6. The year before they sent 7. No guarantee they’ll send 8 this year.
Both Mitty and Pinewood should be going to Norcal Open for State. They play each other for the CCS championship Friday at Maples Pavilion. Pinewood beat Menlo 58-33 and Mitty beat St. Ignatius 62-31. It should be a great game. I think Norcal sends at least 7 to state.
It would be Clovis North and Clovis West. They are playing for the Central Section Championship. It hasn't happened I don't believe at least since Open division started but anything is possible.
Yes I know, but it’s very inequitable to have teams get a BYE and automatically advance at that level and if the CIF is committed to this competitive equity model, then fill all 16 slots with the 16 best teams we have.
If they filled the Regional slots with the best 16 teams, probably 10 would be from the Southern Section, which is loaded with very good teams (but not great ones).
The rationale for six from the North is that there are many more schools in the South so it makes sense to balance it a little -- which is also a reason to send the Clovis teams north and make an eight-team NorCal bracket with two Central Section teams filling it out.
Then again, it seems there are seven solid candidates for the NorCal Open:
SJND
Cardinal Newman
Salesian
Mitty
Pinewood
St. Mary's
Antelope
So maybe one Central team North and one South?
Will be interesting ...
The rationale for six from the North is that there are many more schools in the South so it makes sense to balance it a little -- which is also a reason to send the Clovis teams north and make an eight-team NorCal bracket with two Central Section teams filling it out.
Then again, it seems there are seven solid candidates for the NorCal Open:
SJND
Cardinal Newman
Salesian
Mitty
Pinewood
St. Mary's
Antelope
So maybe one Central team North and one South?
Will be interesting ...
I agree... but I believe 2 HAVE to go from the CCS otherwise why have an OPEN division? So if the CIF does 6 again that leaves the 6 spot for either Salesian or Antelope. Of course if they go 7 or 8 then there is no issue as they both would go.
If they did 8 it's easy as 2 from SJS, 2 from CCS and 4 from NCS. (Assuming no Clovis teams come North)
So assuming no Clovis teams come north...
If 8...
1.Mitty
2.NCS winner
3. SMS
4. NCS runnerup
5.Salesian
6.BOD
7. PW
8.Antelope
Of course if Oakridge happens to upset SMS that changes everything.
If 6...and TRUE seeding
1.Mitty
2.NCS winner
3.SMS
4.NCS runnerup
5.Salesian
6.PW
If 6 and CIF wants equal representation from all sections.
1. Mitty
2.NCS Champ
3.SMS
4.NCS runnerup
5.PW
6.Antelope
Of course it's very conceivable 2 and 3 could be switched up in each scenario also soooo....?????
If 8...
1.Mitty
2.NCS winner
3. SMS
4. NCS runnerup
5.Salesian
6.BOD
7. PW
8.Antelope
Of course if Oakridge happens to upset SMS that changes everything.
If 6...and TRUE seeding
1.Mitty
2.NCS winner
3.SMS
4.NCS runnerup
5.Salesian
6.PW
If 6 and CIF wants equal representation from all sections.
1. Mitty
2.NCS Champ
3.SMS
4.NCS runnerup
5.PW
6.Antelope
Of course it's very conceivable 2 and 3 could be switched up in each scenario also soooo....?????
Ok but why does there HAVE to be 2 from CCS but there doesn't HAVE to be 2 from the SJS?
There should be 2 from the SJS IMO.
Should be D1 winner and D2 winner. But the CIF for whatever reason keeps not doing it. Last year (if memory serves) Sac won D2 and was made the D1 #1 seed and the CIF only took 6 for Open.
Presumably that's the function of the Open -- to let the best teams play each other in the spirit of competitive equity. You could argue that the SJS D-2 champ isn't as good as the runner-up in D-1, but if you have an Open, there's no argument.
It's also really simple for the committee, which has to seed 14 divisions in a six hours (seven boys and seven girls). You just cherrypick the Open finalists and you don't have to spend too much time on deciding the Open teams. I also think CIF would love to have SJS have an Open division, so they might take Antelope just to encourage SJS to get a move on -- in other words, we're going to take two anyway, so wouldn't it make sense to have an Open?
But then again, who knows? If La Jolla Country Day loses to Cathedral Catholic, then now two San Diego teams are the in SoCal Open. If the Central gets two, there are only four spots left for the Southern Section, which is loaded. If you want the best 16 in the Open, at that point you pretty much have to shift at least one of the Clovis teams north.
Or not.
I dont think the Central will get 2 unless Clovis North upsets Clovis west. I think C North would get put in D1. That's just my feeling. And if LJCD takes care of business in the SD section that would leave 6 spots for the Southern Section. Of course upsets in the Central and San Diego sections change all the dynamics.
What would they have done if LJCD lost last night in the semi's? They only won by 2! Now that would have been a mess
CCS has an OPEN because CCS Public schools wanted a chance to hang a CCS banner.
I agree that Pinewood should be Open because they schedule top teams and are competitive. I would think not making the Open would be a downer for the program. I’m thinking “pride” here. Sort of like SHC a few years ago when they asked to be placed in the Open. They wanted to be among the best. This year SHC won’t be in the Open but I imagine their coach wants to get the program back to that level.
