WCAL 2024 Football Schedules
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It’s the 7 points in 3 open games that is what is most disappointing and that falls on the Coaching….
For whatever reason, Wash can’t get his players to have any belief that they have any chance in the game and they play like they lost the game before they got off the Bus….
Prior to Serra, DLS had no chance but you would never know it because they believed that they would play a “Perfect” game and win and at least they put up a good amount of points in those games against equally talented teams….
I fully expect Folsom to be in the open this year and put up at least 2-3 TD’s on whoever they play….
Another example of just WTF I was saying:
View: https://x.com/BerellStaplesQB/status/1804274217023869105
So Mack’s new QB, Berell Staples is listing his home to be Concord, CA., not Oakland. So you ask me how they’re winning in the portal and I say when they continue to get the top kids from Oakland PLUS kids from a couple of cities over, that’s called “Winning in the Portal”.
Well aint that something? Nice work there Chewpa. Ok so an OAL school, so its free to go there (win for the family). but not really sure how playing in the OAL helps when besides playing Oakland Tech, the rest of the teams are not games that garner any D1 attention. I guess their three non-league games in the beginning of the season are their play up games.
Yet you don't mention your 3 WCAL losses to Riordan, Serra and St. Francis. SF and Serra just reload. Serra's frosh went undefeated. SF's JVs took the title. Riordan's freshmen played JVs and only had 2 close losses to Serra and SF. Riordan brings back a varsity team primarily made up of juniors, sophomores and freshmen last season. I just don't see SI beating those three teams.
Really? That's ridiculous.
Now, we just need to Riordan to incorporate a haka during warmups.......LOL
IM LOVIN THIS ENERGY. Spitting hot fire! No secret codes or hashtags. ... Seriously though, your football pay stipend amount cant be the deciding factor for turning down the job. You already know this job is not going to put food on your table/roof over your head.
Mr. Mann is pissed !!! Hey at least living in Reno is cheaper right ?
Whenever I see that sign "The Biggest Little City in the World", I tell myself it should read "The Armpit Capital of the World"...
Yah you would think with his enthusiasm that the most logical choice is Mann's dad.
I had to laugh at his "got the job cuz he aint white" comment. SI is white as hell. The blacks are white. The asians are white. They had a clear successor for hoops in Gilbeaux and passed on him twice for Marcaletti and the University guy. Did Bluford did ok as football coach. Pretty comparable to Regalia. as for as wins-losses.
If you go up against superior athletes with four wide or any other traditional spread, you are doing a disservice to your team. Is that what you are suggesting?
Serra put 38 on Cajon in 2017, led by Jayden Daniels, largely by running double wing exponentially more than they had all year. Given Cajon’s studs on D, I’m confident it would have been a different story if they had stuck to their more traditional spread.
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So your Mann's uncle. Too bad your nephew doesn't know how to play quarterback with that arm. He doesn't have it in between the ears.
Just a reminder that there are no personal attacks or swearing on the boards.
Best of luck to Brandon at Bishop Manogue.
I know we have other players still in NorCal that we can spend our time talking about
Best of luck to Brandon at Bishop Manogue.
I know we have other players still in NorCal that we can spend our time talking about
I felt Serra had the size and speed to compete against Mater Dei. That's why I said it comes down to play calling and finding the counter to what the Mater Dei's defense was running. It's up to the HC to read the game. I was hoping Serra would've at least made it a game.
Believe it or not, I do root for every WCAL team playing outside the league.
I think you are 100% correct we should all practice holding ourselves accountable. Un warranted personal attacks and trash talking kids is not cool . I enjoy reading about football talk and sharing my opinion and view points. I will be happy to convey your well wishes to the Mann family. Again it is not my intention to get loud with anyone but when people over step on language and trash talk it's not appropriate.
Mr. Mann please point out 1 post where I criticized the play of your son? For every quote you can document I’ll donate $100 a post to the charity of your choice. Please don’t lie and say I have said things that’s never been said.
I think this guy responded to the wrong thread because his outburst came out of nowhere.
But it was ok for him to trash Soren Hummel, the Vandermade son, and the head coach? There's offering player/team game by game critique which is what most of us are here for, but that SI rant sounded pretty personal.
Yeah, it’s really weird that my post got deleted, but his post where there’s literally cuss words in it that still there…………. not to mention also him trashing several children on SI and their coach, along with making baseless rumors about an a investigation……… and also he lied about me saying things that I never said which why he can’t quote them because I never said that, but that’s OK
They are following the model created by Long Beach Poly. Only Mack doesn't count everyone in their school program so they look like a very tiny enrollment school.
You have demonstrated a simplistic view of football.
It was the dad for sure. Sounds like he's been harboring some ill will towards SI. It's too bad he lashed out like that unsolicitated.
You've demonstrated that you don't truly understand that football really is a simple game complicated by man's (Coach's) ego.
Everyone knows except for maybe you that the game is 30% Physical 70% Mental.
I'm a SI homer as everyone knows and this is just terrible.
I know everyone at SI loves Coach Vandermade and plenty of people in the know have nothing but good things to say about the man.
We all like to posture and banter about our team's potential successes but our normal posters never stoop to degrading these kids and their coaches.
Smh.......its all disingenuous.
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Football is the most complicated sport that I’m aware of. You think that pattern match coverage is simple? You know every key for spill vs. box?
That wasn’t our conversation, Geary 😅
Our conversation was literally about Mack beefing up their schedule late after they had struck gold in the portal and I’m sticking to what I said. This kid will only be a junior, comes with 2 years of Varsity starting experience and has an offer. Where he lives is beyond the fact, Mack pulls em from everywhere including San Ramon, Richmond, other OAL schools and now Concord. That’s not even a question.
And yes, the OAL football experience isn’t prestigious but when you’ve sent as many kids to the next level as Peters has and are scheduling a Pre-Season that consists of Riordan, St. Francis, San Ramon Valley and Bishop O’Dowd that whole OAL chatter goes out the window.
Before you laugh at O’Dowd, understand that Mack schedules them in order to leverage power over them. If you’re the parent of an incoming freshmen who can ball, you can pay tuition for him to attend and play at O’Dowd or send him to Mack for free who BOD can’t even beat. You tell me where little Geary is going to school?
Yes but he himself on his own Twitter claims to live in Concord. It’s very possible (albeit unlikely) that he lived in Concord while attending Edison. The bigger point is how the hell did he end up at Mack from Concord? There a ton of schools closer to his Concord home where he could have went to school and gotten a good football experience.
Miramonte just put out a D1 QB.
Pitt and CVC are always good.
Could you imagine Campolindo with a QB of his caliber?
How about staying in Concord where he lives?
He ended up at Mack because Peters went and recruited him over. Nothing less than that.
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Shouldn't he have to sit out a few games?
We have also have new transfer and he's having to sit out 4 games.
Speaking of Mack, is the OAL actually a legitimate league in football? There are so few schools left it's basically a shell of its former self. Oh, lest I forget, the OAL is somehow considered its own separate CIF section. Please shoot me now.
I don’t understand why Walsh gets so much heat for this. Nick Saban could coach them and Serra is still never winning an open division state title—and I say that as a Serra homer. High school football is different down there, and until norcal schools somehow overcome demographic disadvantages and develop a stomach for throwing cash around, one should not see that game as anything more than a formality.
Would Strongly Disagree! So Basically saying the players from down there are ? Then the players at Serra? Ok The QB they (Serra) had more then a dozen D1 offers more then the QB down there . You really going to give Walsh and his OC a pass ? Not one play was successful, Negro told him in a interview prior to Serra going down south " dont come down here running the same stuff you been running up there, you gona have problems" . Serra ran same stuff they ran all season and you saw the results every year . I'm sure you Disagree but it is what it is. Walsh and OC are not on the same level as the coach's at Bosco or Mater Dei it would seem . I guess we can watch they tapes?
Serra tried to played ball control and shorten the game, a good move for when you're outmatched at every position and don't have the depth of your opponent. Did you not see the MD WR run away from the Serra 4 year starter FS (one of Serra's best ever) in the 1st half? Serra was completely overmatched skill wise much like every other team on MD's schedule, including nationally ranked teams. Serra was down 21-0 at half and was a play or two away from it being 14-0 or even 14-7. Centenial, St. Frances Academy, Bosco 2x and Santa Margarita are the only teams on MD's schedule last year that were closer at half time. It's a completely different game that MD and Bosco are playing in SoCal.
Anyone claiming it's just a matter of coaching as to why Serra hasn't been especially competitive against Mater Dei and St. John Bosco either hasn't watched a single down of the games or hasn't understood a single down of the games.
Additionally, any adult questioning the heart or determination of this team of teenagers has to be a real piece of work ("work" not being my preferred term, but I wish to stay compliant with board rules). Going after other adults is one thing, but kids? What kind of person does that? It's doubtful that any of them have faced anything near what the Padres have over the last 3 years. In some cases, I don't think they even played the game in the first place.
Tell us you didn't watch the game without telling us you didn't watch the game.
IMO, the fact that Oakland and SF have their own separate sections, only consisting of one league, is the biggest joke in the CIF. Logically, there isn't one single reason for this to be the case.
A couple of notes:
Walsh is not perfect. Far from it. He would readily admit that. But he did assume control of a moribund Serra program in 2001 (his first head coaching job) and, within one year, brought it to a co-WCAL title with Valley Christian (which joined the league in 2002). Those two programs broke the St. Francis/Bellarmine stranglehold on the league championship. That 2001 co-crown was Serra's first since 1972. Talk about a drought.
Walsh also was primarily responsible for a truncated prep football "season" in the spring of 2021. Other sports benefited as well. Teens got back on the field and in the gym. His lobbying and public relations work via the media and politicians was outstanding. He became the face of California prep athletics, for good or ill.
He hasn't been avoiding tough schedules. His 2024 log is a killer _ Folsom, DLS and Bosco all in a row. Ouch. Combined with the typical WCAL sked, Serra's 2024 opponents add up to the most difficult since the school first fielded a varsity football unit in 1946. So, regardless of his expertise with X's and O's, he hasn't been ducking challenges.
On a different front, Walsh has become, arguably, Serra's (and the WCAL's) most important spokesman and recognizable figure. That can indeed rub some folks the wrong way. The Serra football program now represents about 27 percent of the school's total enrollment. You can view that in both positive and negative ways.
Some associated with the San Mateo school fret that it is viewed by the public as a "jock" enterprise. Football is the primary reason. Walsh's thriving youth sports business is another source of an undercurrent of discontent in some quarters. It's been too successful in some ways at this point,
In sum, Walsh is seen somehow as a Jekyll/Hyde figure by a lot of people. He's terrific and less-so at the same time. There's a lot more to this guy than meets the casual eye. He has his critics. He also has supporters. He's a target. That's the price of success, though limited to Northern California (2-6 vs. SoCal units), as if that is now a failing. How much longer will he stay coaching at Serra? It's not clear. But speculation is growing.
A footnote: With 17 of 22 starters (most of whom were heavy-duty contributors to a 36-1 record vs NorCal teams over the last three campaigns) gone from Serra's stellar 2023 team, arguably the best in school history, naysayers are looking forward to 2024 as the Padres re-tool with a young group of key newcomers (more than a dozen sophs may be on the varsity on opening night in Folsom). There will be defeats, some of them, perhaps, ugly. A 6-4 or 5-5 mark is likely. Let the catcalls commence.
Walsh is not perfect. Far from it. He would readily admit that. But he did assume control of a moribund Serra program in 2001 (his first head coaching job) and, within one year, brought it to a co-WCAL title with Valley Christian (which joined the league in 2002). Those two programs broke the St. Francis/Bellarmine stranglehold on the league championship. That 2001 co-crown was Serra's first since 1972. Talk about a drought.
Walsh also was primarily responsible for a truncated prep football "season" in the spring of 2021. Other sports benefited as well. Teens got back on the field and in the gym. His lobbying and public relations work via the media and politicians was outstanding. He became the face of California prep athletics, for good or ill.
He hasn't been avoiding tough schedules. His 2024 log is a killer _ Folsom, DLS and Bosco all in a row. Ouch. Combined with the typical WCAL sked, Serra's 2024 opponents add up to the most difficult since the school first fielded a varsity football unit in 1946. So, regardless of his expertise with X's and O's, he hasn't been ducking challenges.
On a different front, Walsh has become, arguably, Serra's (and the WCAL's) most important spokesman and recognizable figure. That can indeed rub some folks the wrong way. The Serra football program now represents about 27 percent of the school's total enrollment. You can view that in both positive and negative ways.
Some associated with the San Mateo school fret that it is viewed by the public as a "jock" enterprise. Football is the primary reason. Walsh's thriving youth sports business is another source of an undercurrent of discontent in some quarters. It's been too successful in some ways at this point,
In sum, Walsh is seen somehow as a Jekyll/Hyde figure by a lot of people. He's terrific and less-so at the same time. There's a lot more to this guy than meets the casual eye. He has his critics. He also has supporters. He's a target. That's the price of success, though limited to Northern California (2-6 vs. SoCal units), as if that is now a failing. How much longer will he stay coaching at Serra? It's not clear. But speculation is growing.
A footnote: With 17 of 22 starters (most of whom were heavy-duty contributors to a 36-1 record vs NorCal teams over the last three campaigns) gone from Serra's stellar 2023 team, arguably the best in school history, naysayers are looking forward to 2024 as the Padres re-tool with a young group of key newcomers (more than a dozen sophs may be on the varsity on opening night in Folsom). There will be defeats, some of them, perhaps, ugly. A 6-4 or 5-5 mark is likely. Let the catcalls commence.
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If the above statement is true.
The fact that SJB’s Coach Jason Negro told Serra’s Walsh to “don’t come down here running that same BS or you’ll have problems“ is wild.
Damn.....😬
