larry legend33 said:

That actually makes some sense to me.

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NCS707 said:

Open/D1 might only be 4 teams…
Big implications down the brackets if true

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MTsince2004 said:

One tweak to your idea could be to maybe create "enrollment" categories then create the division within those. Lump D1-D3 schools in a larger schools category and smaller schools in another.

There still has to be some weight given to school size. At the end of the regular season, Monterey Trail was ranked outside the top 16. In the 17-32 spots are teams that are down in D6. They certainly are very good teams, but it just seems inherently unfair to force them to play so far above their classification when they haven't gotten there through the continued success rule.

However, I don't think the Section wants to do any of this. I have long held the belief that they want the top 8-10 schools spread out through the divisions so that the SJS fairs better in the regional games. I also think the other sections see this as well, which is why the decision was made to pair Grant and Rocklin last year. There is no way Grant should have been in D3 and everyone knew it. The results of the game proved it.

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ayalar09 said:

That little Australian team is going to get destroyed this tournament…..hopefully they enjoy their trip to the states

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JHS Basketball said:

The 50th Fr. Barry Classic at Jesuit High School will be December 12-14, 2024.

It should be another great tournament with the following teams participating:

Jesuit - Sacramento, CA
Archbishop Mitty - San Jose, CA
Brophy Prep - Phoenix, AZ
Cathedral Catholic - San Diego, CA
Jesuit - Portland, OR
St. Bernard - Playa Del Rey, CA
St. Ignatius - Sydney, Australia
St. Mary's - Stockton, CA

Brackets will be released soon.

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NCS707 said:

The system isn’t great because the NCS has a large number of small publics and very small privates that can’t or won’t emphasize sports (most of these don’t have football though). The NCL and HDN winners will be moved up for doing well and face a mediocre large school. This will largely leave a solid chunk of NCS school left out of the a section championship opportunity. This issue is worse in volleyball, basketball, ect… where there are even more small schools who can’t elevate their programs.

The similar system works better in SS and CCS though.

CCS has some protection to lower divisions, sometimes you’ll get a SHC in D3 or HMB in D1 but I think they’ve resolved these ridiculous placements.

SS doesn’t really have the small public schools, many stay in 8 man despite the #s for 11. Once your public has 1000 or so enrolled pure Calprep rankings makes more sense, less inherent disadvantages. Although the “luck” of a 1 seed or 16 seed is frustrating. You really have to treat the playoffs as an opportunity to play extra games, that’s all it is. Placements and opponents have a huge luck component to it.

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larry legend33 said:

Any predictions? Believe meeting is today so we should know soon. MC is a shoe in for the Open although Windsor gave them a heck of a game. I gotta think NCS will not load 2 very good smaller schools in the open. Both of these schools have a good chance to be in a RBG if they played at D2 level.

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FBAddict said:

OK, that makes the system work.

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Cal 14 said:

Everyone in D-I/Open has beaten someone else in D-I/Open.

Los Gatos beat Soquel. Soquel beat Valley Christian and Salinas. Salinas beat VC. VC beat Riordan. Riordan beat St. Francis and Serra. SF beat St. Ignatius, Serra, and VC. SI beat Serra, Riordan, and VC. Serra beat VC.

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THEOC89 said:

They seem to be doing fine in the “Nobody Cares But Parents” Sports….

But as far as the actual sports that drive attendance and people care about Football, Baseball and Basketball they haven’t been relevent in 10, 12 and 5 years respectively….. 🤣

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JHS Basketball said:

The 50th Fr. Barry Classic at Jesuit High School will be December 12-14, 2024.

It should be another great tournament with the following teams participating:

Jesuit - Sacramento, CA
Archbishop Mitty - San Jose, CA
Brophy Prep - Phoenix, AZ
Cathedral Catholic - San Diego, CA
Jesuit - Portland, OR
St. Bernard - Playa Del Rey, CA
St. Ignatius - Sydney, Australia
St. Mary's - Stockton, CA

Brackets will be released soon.

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PALbooster said:

CCS play-off projections after Saturday’s results

There are a few scores that are still not in the CalPreps system but I don’t think they will influence the seeding at this point. If they do I will come back and edit this post.

One assumption I made about the 40 teams that make up the play-off field is that the PAL will put Half Moon Bay in as a third automatic qualifier from the Ocean Division and limit the El Camino Division to one automatic berth which will keep Woodside out of the play-offs. If this is the case, Sacred Heart Prep will get the final at-large berth. If the PAL decides to have two automatic qualifiers from each of their two B Leagues then Woodside would go in. Half Moon Bay would still qualify as they would get the last at-large berth and Sacred Heart Prep would not make the field.

Open/D1

Riordan's win over St. Francis changed the top six seeds. One assumption I made that influences the seedings greatly is that St. Francis and Serra will not get a championship point for playing De La Salle as De La Salle is not eligible for the EBAL Mountain League championship. I also assumed that St. Ignatius and Soquel will receive a championship point for playing San Ramon Valley (even though De la Salle beat SRV) who is recognized as the league champion of the EBAL Mountain League. Obviously if this is managed differently in the section seeding meeting the seedings would change for the top four seeds as St. Francis and Serra would gain a point and St. Ignatius and Soquel would lose a point.

8. Salinas 8-2 66 (8) at 1. St. Ignatius 8-2 77.75 (2)

7. Valley Christian 5-5 68 (7) at 2. St. Francis 8-2 77.25 (1)

Winners of Round 1 play for open championship – loser of open championship plays winner of round two game below for D1 championship.

6. Soquel 8-2 71 (5) at 3. Riordan 6-4 72 (6)

5. Los Gatos 8-2 71.5 (4) at 4. Serra 5-5 72 (3)

D2

8. Santa Teresa 9-1 49.5* (2 in D3) at 1. Wilcox 8-2 65 (1)

5. Monterey 6-4 53 (5) at 4. Menlo-Atherton 6-4 55.5 (3)

6. Menlo School 7-3 52.5 (6) at 3. Christopher 9-1 57 (3)

7. Palma 5-5 50.5 (8) at 2. Sacred Heart Cathedral 4-6 59 (2)

* Elevated to D2 as no B league team can play in D1 or D2

D3

San Mateo’s rout over favored Burlingame pushed San Mateo up from D4 to D3 and moved Burlingame down to D4.

8. San Mateo 8-2 40 (6 in D4) at 1. Carmel 10-0 58* (1)

5. Capuchino 9-1 43.75 (7 in D2) at 4. Hollister 4-6 47 (6)

6. Half Moon Bay 8-2 43.5 (4) at 3. Palo Alto 5-5 47.5 (5)

7. Aptos 5-5 42 (1 in D4) at 2. Willow Glen 10-0 49.5 (3)

Dropped to D3 as no B league team can play in DI or D2

D4

I assumed Kings Academy gets a point for Rio Honda Prep being a league champion in a three team league (something that CCS may want to address in the off-season). Even if KA losses this point it won't impact their seeding.

8. Live Oak 3-7 27** (8) at 1. Piedmont Hills 8-2 39.5 (8 in D3)

5. North Salinas 7-3 35 (4) at 4. Burlingame 6-4 35.5 (7 in D3)

6. Kings Academy 5-5 32.75 (NR) at 3. Sacred Heart Prep 4-6 38 (2)

7. North Monterey County 7-3 31.5 (1 in D5) at 2. Branham 7-3 39 (3)

**Elevated to D4 as no A league team can be in D5 and all C league teams must be in D5.

D5

8. Gunderson 7-3 19 (8) at 1. South San Francisco 8-2 28 (7 in D4)

5. Gunn 10-0 23.5 (4) at 4. Sequoia 5-5 24.5 (2)

6. Stevenson 7-2 21.7 (6) at 3. Leland 6-3 26.5 (3)

7. Overfelt 5-5 20.5 (7) at 2. Alisal 5-5 26.5 (5)

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FBAddict said:

Is that how it has been interpreted in CCS for their powerpoints for the last 20+ years?

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