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Official CCS Final Play-off Seeding - released by CCS

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Glad to have another full season (hopefully) ahead. A few tweaks to how the CCS is doing sectional and regional play-offs this year.

CCS play-offs consists of 40 teams. 33 automatic qualifiers top four teams from the WCAL, Deanza, Gabilan, PAL-Bay and Mt.. Hamilton; top three teams from the Mission; Top two teams from the PAL-Ocean, El Camino, Santa Teresa, and the top team from the West Valley, PAl-Lake, Cypress (B league - but gives one position to the Mission league), and Santa Lucia. There are seven at-large berths. These are selected by ranking the top ten non-automatic qualifiers by their CCS points and then giving 10 points to the team with the highest calprep tanking down to 1 point for the team with the lowest cal prep ranking and adding their CCS points to this. Top seven of these 10 team make the 40 team field.

Once the 40 team field is set, it is seeded into 5 divisions by adding CCS points to the Calprep ranking (top CCS team gets 40 points, lowest Calprep rated team gets 1 point. The five division champions advance to the regional play-offs.

CCS points are calculated as follows: 2 points for every win (1 point for a tie); 1 point for every A league team you play (out of section teams areas A team if their CAlprep ranking is 8 or higher); 0.5 points for every B team played (Out of section teams are B teams if their Calpreps ranking is between -19.9 and 7.9) and 0 point for every C team played (for out of section if calprep ranging is -20 or lower). You get the following bonus points. 2.5 points for winning an A league; 2 points for winning a B league; 1.5 points for winning a C league; 2 points for playing a team ranked in the top 100 of California as ranked by Calpreps and 1 point for playing a team ranked between 101-150 in California by Calpreps. If you play an out fo state team and their ranking is higher than the #100 team in CA you get 2 points; between 101-150 you get 1 point. For teams that play fewer than 10 games there is a formula to provide additional points.

For projection purposes I assume higher Calprep ranked team wins remaining games.

Divison 1
1. St. Francis - 81
2. Bellarmine 76.5
3. Menlo-Atherton 74.5
4. Serra 73.2
5. Los Gatos 70.5
6. Salinas 68.5
7. Valley Christian 68
8. San Benito 66

Absent a huge upset in the PAL-Bay or Deanza where Los Gatos has already defeated Wilcox) Division 1 will almost defiantly be the top 4 WCAL teams, Los Gatos, Menlo -Atherton, and the top two Gabilan teams (currently projected as Salinas and San Benito)

Division 2
1. Aptos 62
2. Wilcox 62
3. Palma 60
4. Burlingame 59
5. Leland 57.5
6. St. Ignatius 56
7. Menlo 55.5
8. Santa Cruz 55.5

Division 3
1. Live Oak 52.5
2. Riordan 51.5
3. Christopher 47.5
4. Mountain View 47.5
5. Half Moon Bay 46.7
6. Leigh 45
7. Terra Nova 44
8. Homestead 39

Division 4
1. Alisal 38.4
2. Hillsdale 38
3. Scotts Valley 38
4. Monterey 37.5
5. Palo Alto 36
6. Gunn 34.5
7. San Mateo 32.6
8. Silver Creek 31

Division 5
1. King City 29.2
2. Aragon 29
3. Cupertino 28.2
4. Pioneer 27.5
5. North Salinas 24.4
6. Santa Teresa 23.5
7. St-Francis-Watsonville 21
8. Hill 19
 
A breakdown by league
A leagues
Deanza - Four AQ spots should go to Los Gatos, Wilcox, Mountain View and Homestead. Los Gatos should go undefeated for the regular season, having already beaten Wilcox in league play. Wilcox should win out having beaten Mountain View and lost to Los Gatos. Mountain View should take third in the league and Homestead based on last weeks upset of Palo Alto should get the fourth spot. Palo Alto will make the play-offs as an at-large if they beat Milpitas later this year. IF Milpitas can beat Palo Alto they will be positioned for an at-large berth.

Gabilan - Very competitive league this year at the top. Salinas is currently undefeated having beaten both Aptos and San Benito and still play Palma and will be gaslight favorite to win and go 8-0 in the regular season. Aptos, San Benito and Palma should get the other three automatic spots. Christopher will get an at-large berth and the sixth place team int he Gabilan will likely get an at-large berth )projected to be Alisal). With Salinas ranked in the top 100 of the state and San Benito, Aptos, and Palma all ranked between 101-150 - everyone gets a lot of bonus points to boost their seeding this year. It looks like the top two teams will be in the Division I play-offs.

Mount Hamilton - Really hard to see this as A league as the league is very weak after the top two teams. Leland edged Live Oak 14-13 last week and both teams should win out to take the top two spots in the league. The rest of this leagues very balanced with Silver Creek ranked slightly ahead o the others in the pack. Santa Teresa is currently slated for the fourth spot in a close race with overflew, Lincoln and Piedmont Hills. It is doubtful their will be an at-large team from this league.

PAL-Bay - Menlo-Atherton is a prohibitive favorite to win the league. Kings Academy will likely finish last. The remaining four teams (Burlingame, Half Moon Bay, Terra Nova, and Sacred Heart Prep) will battle for the remaining three automatic spots.
SHP is currently projected 5th and would not likely make it as an at-large team. Any of the other three teams would likely make it as an -at-lerge if they don't get one of the automatic qualifying spots.

WCAL - Barring any pretty major upsets the top four teams in the WCAL will likely stay ranked in the top 100 of the state. Serra and St. Francis appear headed toward a week 10 showdown for the league championship and Bellarmine and Valley Christian should take the other two automatic qualifying spots. All four should in the Division 1 play-offs. The fifth and sixth place teams from eh SCAL will make the play-offs as at-large teams. St. Ignatius is a pretty strong favorite for the 5th position. The final spot will come down to Riordan, Mitty or Sacred Heart Cathedral. Riordan beat Mitty last week to currently have an edge on the last spot.

B Leagues
PAL-Ocean - Hillsdale and Menlo face off this week with the winner the likely league champion and the loser likely will take the second at-large berth. Aragon is currently the last at-large team to make the field and should place third in this league.

Santa Teresa - Leigh is a big favorite to win the league and finish the regular season undefeated. Pioneer is slight favorite to take the second automatic spot but his should be a very competitive race with Sobrato, Westmont, and Prospect. Doubtful that the third place team will get an at-large berth.

El Camino - Gunn and Cupetino are the top ranked teams right now, but Fremont and Los Altos could contend as well. Unlikely a third place team will qualify form this league.

Mission - this league gets three spots as they are part of a super league and they only give one spot tot heir lower B league league (Cypress). Santa Cruz is a strong favorite to win the league and finish the regular season undefeated. Monterey is the likely second place finisher. The final spot should be a close race between North Salinas, Soquel, Gilroy and Carmel. North Salinas is currently a slight favorite.

Cypress - Only the league winner gets an automatic spot and the top two contenders are Scotts Valley and King City with Scotts Valley as a slight favorite. The second place team in this league could get an at-large berth.

C League - Only the league champions get an automatic spot

PAL-Lake - San Mateo is a prohibitive favorite and should ge this spot

West Valley - Hill is favored and will need to get through Gunderson to make the play-offs.

Santa Lucia - a fairly balanced league with St. Francis of Watsonville favored to take the lone spot.
 
I am so glad you are back at it this year! THANK YOU for your hard work!
 
PALBooster,

What do you think will happen to all of South City’s opponents? They don’t have varsity football this season.
 
How do you come up with 68.5 for Salinas?

8 wins = 16
8 A-league opponents = 8
3 101-150 opponents = 3
Subtotal = 27

27/8 = 3.375
3.375 - 0.5 = 2.875

A-league champ = 2.5
Calpreps ranking = 34

27 + 2.875 + 2.5 + 34 = 66.375


Or 73.2 for Serra?

8 wins = 16
9 A-league opponents = 9
3 1-100 opponents = 6
1 league champ opponent = 1
Subtotal = 32

32/9 = 3.556
3.556 - 0.5 = 3.056

Calpreps ranking = 39

32 + 3.056 + 39 = 74.056


Incidentally, the sub-10 game calculation is about the dumbest thing that could possibly be used. It looks like whoever came up with it didn't know anything about math. It should be a simple extrapolation with a multiplication of the win/loss-schedule component by 10/8 (8 for Salinas, with 8 games).

EDIT: I think I see how you got Salinas to 68.5. I think you threw in an extra 2.5 from either the schedule adjustment or the league championship.

I also see how the schedule bonus points are being left out in your calculations. That's a real problem because they belong as a part of the schedule. The CCS did not think this part through and it's a problem. The whole calculation is just terrible.

Even with the above, I have Serra at 73.3.
 
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To answer a few of the questions

South City never was on people's schedules - some PAL lake teams found a 10th game some are playing nine - won't impact CCS points and seedings

For CAL 14 to get into the sausage of points for less than a 10 game schedule:

Salinas calculation for less than 10 game schedule is:
8 a games on the schedule = 24 points/8 games =3.0 -0.5(CCS penalty)=2.5 X 1 (winning percentage - which for Salinas I am assuming is 100% as they project to 8-0) so they get 2.5 points per game and they are short two games so they get 5 points.

So for Salinas
8 A Games on Schedule = 8 points
8 wins = 16 points
Bonus for winning league = 2.5 points
Bonus for playing 3 opponents 101-150 = 3 points
Normalization for 10 game schedule = 5 points
CCS Total = 34.5
Cal prep rank in CCSis 7th so they get 34 points
Total 68.5

For Serra:
9 A games on schedule = 9 points
8 wins = 16 points
Bonus points for playing 1-100 teams = 6 points
Playing WCAL league champion = 1 point
Normalization for 10 game schedule = 2.22 points
CCS points = 34.22
Calpreps ranking 2nd = 39 points
Total = 73.22 points

10 game normalization formula - 9 A game opponents x 3 = 27/9 =3.0-0.5=2.5X.889 (assume 8-1 record) = 2.22 points. Ironically if Serra would have played Pittsburg and lost they would have likely gained a minimum of 4 points (6 points if they would have won) instead of the 2.22 points they are getting from a 9 game schedule.
 
Ironically if Serra would have played Pittsburg and lost they would have likely gained a minimum of 4 points (6 points if they would have won) instead of the 2.22 points they are getting from a 9 game schedule.
I understand why it is less according to the rules, but that is a big difference! It is anomalies like this that point to how complicated systems can get messed up.
 
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I understand why it is less according to the rules, but that is a big difference! It is anomalies like this that point to how complicated systems can get messed up.
True dat......or explains how someone using half their brain will crown their team the greatest thing since sliced bread or indoor flush toilets......
 
To answer a few of the questions

South City never was on people's schedules - some PAL lake teams found a 10th game some are playing nine - won't impact CCS points and seedings

For CAL 14 to get into the sausage of points for less than a 10 game schedule:

Salinas calculation for less than 10 game schedule is:
8 a games on the schedule = 24 points/8 games =3.0 -0.5(CCS penalty)=2.5 X 1 (winning percentage - which for Salinas I am assuming is 100% as they project to 8-0) so they get 2.5 points per game and they are short two games so they get 5 points.

So for Salinas
8 A Games on Schedule = 8 points
8 wins = 16 points
Bonus for winning league = 2.5 points
Bonus for playing 3 opponents 101-150 = 3 points
Normalization for 10 game schedule = 5 points
CCS Total = 34.5
Cal prep rank in CCSis 7th so they get 34 points
Total 68.5

For Serra:
9 A games on schedule = 9 points
8 wins = 16 points
Bonus points for playing 1-100 teams = 6 points
Playing WCAL league champion = 1 point
Normalization for 10 game schedule = 2.22 points
CCS points = 34.22
Calpreps ranking 2nd = 39 points
Total = 73.22 points

10 game normalization formula - 9 A game opponents x 3 = 27/9 =3.0-0.5=2.5X.889 (assume 8-1 record) = 2.22 points. Ironically if Serra would have played Pittsburg and lost they would have likely gained a minimum of 4 points (6 points if they would have won) instead of the 2.22 points they are getting from a 9 game schedule.
Ok, as I read and understand what they're doing more clearly, the concept becomes even worse.

1. CCS assumes the unplayed game is a win --> You can't assume that. If a team wins 7 out of 9 games, it should be anticipated that, at most, they'd have a 77.8% chance of winning the missing game.

2. Equation is to correct for the schedule being less than 10 games, but is not considering their new Calpreps bonus points rules for the schedule. A team plays nothing but lower A league teams shouldn't get the same adjustment as one who plays 3 top 100 teams. It should be assumed that the team with 9 lower A opponents probably would have secured a 10th lower A team, whereas the team that had 3 top 100 opponents out of 9 would have had a 33.3% chance of scheduling another.

3. Same applies for league champ opponent as above. If a team plays one league champ in 9 games, there is an 11.1% chance they'd play another.

All of this should be a simple extrapolation of points, based on the number of games played and all considerations for that schedule. If one team tallied 30 points in 9 games, the bonus should be 3.33 points. A team that tallies 25 points in 8 games should get 6.25.

Also, the rules do not state that the bonus points are for each game missed. That may be what is intended, but it's not stated as far as I can see.
 
A few upsets in Week 6 have changed the make-up of the CCS play-off field and I am sure there will be more to come over the final four weeks. New teams into the projected field include Sacred Heart Cathedral, Sacred Heart Prep, Soquel, and Los Altos. Teams that are projected out are St. Ignatius, Aragon, North Salinas and Aragon. Also congratulations to St. Francis Watsonville who became the first team to clinch a league championship and play-off berth by winning the Santa Lucia League.

D1 - Only change from last week is Aptos at #8 and San Benito to D2.

1. St. Francis 81
2. Bellarmine 75.5
3. Menlo-Atherton 74.5
4. Serra 73.2
5. Los Gatos 70.5
6. Salinas 69.5
7. Valley Christian 67
8. Aptos 65

D2
1. San Benito 63
2. Wilcox 61
3. Palma 60
4. Burlingame 58
5. Menlo 57.5
6. Leland 57.5
7. Santa Cruz 54.5
8. Riordan 54.5

D3
1. Live Oak 53.5
2. Mountain View 48.5
3. Half Moon Bay 46.7
4. Christopher 45.5
5. Sacred Heart Cathedral 44
6. Homestead 41
7. Leigh 41
8. Alisal 39.4

D4
1. Sacred Heart Prep 38
2. Terra Nova 38
3. Scotts Valley 38
4. Palo Alto 37
5. Pioneer 35.5
6. Hillsdale 35
7. San Mateo 31.6
8. Cupertino 31.2

D5
1. Santa Teresa 30.5
2. King City 30.2
3. Silver Creek 28
4. Monterey 27.5
5. Soquel 26.5
6. Los Altos 24
7. St. Francis (W) 21
8. Hill 19

League Analysis to follow
 
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League Races

DeAnza - No changes this week as all favorites won as expected. Los Gatos heavy favorite to finish league and regular season undefeated. Wilcox should win out and finish second. This week's game between Homestead and Mountain View could determine third place. Palo Alto likely to get an at-large berth.

Gabilan- No changes here either as all favorites won. Big game this week as Palma faces off with San Benito. The winner still has a chance to share the league title with Salinas. Salinas still favored to finish league and season undefeated but still have Palma on the schedule. Aptos, San Benito and Palma likely to take other three automatic berths. Christopher and Alisal are in line for at-large berths. The whole league gets boost in section seeding as Salinas is ranked in the top 100 and Aptos, San Benito and Palma are all in the top 150 teams in the state.

Mt. Hamilton - No real changes ether. Leland should win out and win league with Live Oak finishing second. The final two automatic spots are a tight race between Santa Teresa, Silver Creek and Lincoln, with Santa Teresa and Silver Creek being slight favorites. Silver Creek vs Lincoln this week will be a big game in deciding one of these automatic spots. Unlikely that an large team will come from this league.

PAL-Bay - Real nail biters in the PAL-Bay last week. MA held off Half Moon Bay 47-46; while Sacred Heart pulled a slight upset over Terra Nova 14-13 and Favored Burlingame squeaked by Kings Academy 10-7. MA is still a big favorite to win the league and Burlingame already at 2-0 should get an automatic bid. Half Moon Bay and Sacred Heart Prep now become likely to get the last two automatic spots and Terra Nova is well positioned to gain an at-large berth

WCAL - No changes to the top of the league, but Sacred Heart Cathedral's 21-20 win over rival Saint Ignatius scrambles the bottom half of the league. Given all the bonus points from the top four WCAL teams being in the top 100, the 5th and 6th place teams will get at-large berths. At this point Riordan becomes favored to finish 5th and Sacred Heart Cathedral to finish 6th. The round robin between the bottom four teams will determine the two at-large spots.

Pal-Ocean - Menlo's decisive win over Hillsdale solidifies their position to win the league. Hillsdale is still favored for the second automatic spot but it is likely to come down to a final week game against rival Aragon. Aragon was the last team in as an at-large last week, but this week falls to first team out with Terra Nova taking the at-large spot.

Santa Teresa - Pioneer upset Leigh 17-14 and is now favored to win this league. They face off with the league's other undefeated team Sobrato this week as an 8 point favorite. Leigh is still favored to take the second automatic spot. If Leigh falls to third they still might accumulate enough points in third place to gain an at-large berth.

Mission - This is one of the more balanced leagues. Santa Cruz still remains a heavy favorite to finish the league and regular season undefeated, but it will be a close race for second and third. Soquel pulled off the upset over Monterey 21-20 and with Santa Cruz is undefeated in league. The third spot will likely comedown to North Salinas or Monterey which has identical Cal Prep scores (Monterey is ranked one spot above North Salinas).

El Camino - Los Altos pulled an upset over Gunn and is undefeated in league with current league favorite Cupertino. Fremont and Gunn are still in therunning to gain one of the top two spots in a league that is fairly balanced. Los Altos will try to survive a gauntlet where it will play three games in eight days when it plays Thursday (Saratoga), Monday (Fremont in a rescheduled game) and then Thursday (non-league against San Lorenzo Valley). Cupertino is a slight favorite to win out with Los Altos favored for second at this point.

Cypress - No changes here as all favorites won. King City stayed undefeated in a defensive battle in a 7-0 win over Watsonville.Scotts Valley remains the favorite to take the lone automatic spot with King City well positioned to get an at-large berth.

PAl- Lake No changes - San Mateo still a heavy favorite to take the lone automatic spot. They face the only other undefeated team in the league in Sequoia this week.

West Valley - Hill and Gunderson are both 3-0 in league and will likely square off for the league championship in two weeks.

Santa Lucia - Congratulations to St. Francis who clinched the league this week and their play-off spot with a win over Harbor to go 3-0 in league. St. Francis has one league game left against Pajaro Valley who is 0-2 in league and even with a loss they would win all head to head tiebreakers.
 
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League Races

DeAnza - No changes this week as all favorites won as expected. Los Gatos heavy favorite to finish league and regular season undefeated. Wilcox should win out and finish second. This week's game between Homestead and Mountain View could determine third place. Palo Alto likely to get an at-large berth.

Gabilan- No changes here either as all favorites won. Big game this week as Palma faces off with San Benito. The winner still has a chance to share the league title with Salinas. Salinas still favored to finish league and season undefeated but still have Palma on the schedule. Aptos, San Benito and Palma likely to take other three automatic berths. Christopher and Alisal are in line for at-large berths. The whole league gets boost in section seeding as Salinas is ranked in the top 100 and Aptos, San Benito and Palma are all in the top 150 teams in the state.

Mt. Hamilton - No real changes ether. Leland should win out and win league with Live Oak finishing second. The final two automatic spots are a tight race between Santa Teresa, Silver Creek and Lincoln, with Santa Teresa and Silver Creek being slight favorites. Silver Creek vs Lincoln this week will be a big game in deciding one of these automatic spots. Unlikely that an large team will come from this league.

PAL-Bay - Real nail biters in the PAL-Bay last week. MA held off Half Moon Bay 47-46; while Sacred Heart pulled a slight upset over Terra Nova 14-13 and Favored Burlingame squeaked by Kings Academy 10-7. MA is still a big favorite to win the league and Burlingame already at 2-0 should get an automatic bid. Half Moon Bay and Sacred Heart Prep now become likely to get the last two automatic spots and Terra Nova is well positioned to gain an at-large berth

WCAL - No changes to the top of the league, but Sacred Heart Cathedral's 21-20 win over rival Saint Ignatius scrambles the bottom half of the league. Given all the bonus points from the top four WCAL teams being in the top 100, the 5th and 6th place teams will get at-large berths. At this point Riordan becomes favored to finish 5th and Sacred Heart Cathedral to finish 6th. The round robin between the bottom four teams will determine the two at-large spots.

Pal-Ocean - Menlo's decisive win over Hillsdale solidifies their position to win the league. Hillsdale is still favored for the second automatic spot but it is likely to come down to a final week game against rival Aragon. Aragon was the last team in as an at-large last week, but this week falls to first team out with Terra Nova taking the at-large spot.

Santa Teresa - Pioneer upset Leigh 17-14 and is now favored to win this league. They face off with the league's other undefeated team Sobrato this week as an 8 point favorite. Leigh is still favored to take the second automatic spot. If Leigh falls to third they still might accumulate enough points in third place to gain an at-large berth.

Mission - This is one of the more balanced leagues. Santa Cruz still remains a heavy favorite to finish the league and regular season undefeated, but it will be a close race for second and third. Soquel pulled off the upset over Monterey 21-20 and with Santa Cruz is undefeated in league. The third spot will likely comedown to North Salinas or Monterey which has identical Cal Prep scores (Monterey is ranked one spot above North Salinas).

El Camino - Los Altos pulled an upset over Gunn and is undefeated in league with current league favorite Cupertino. Fremont and Gunn are still in therunning to gain one of the top two spots in a league that is fairly balanced. Los Altos will try to survive a gauntlet where it will play three games in eight days when it plays Thursday (Saratoga), Monday (Fremont in a rescheduled game) and then Thursday (non-league against San Lorenzo Valley). Cupertino is a slight favorite to win out with Los Altos favored for second at this point.

Cypress - No changes here as all favorites won. King City stayed undefeated in a defensive battle in a 7-0 win over Watsonville.Scotts Valley remains the favorite to take the lone automatic spot with King City well positioned to get an at-large berth.

PAl- Lake No changes - San Mateo still a heavy favorite to take the lone automatic spot. They face the only other undefeated team in the league in Sequoia this week.

West Valley - Hill and Gunderson are both 3-0 in league and will likely square off for the league championship in two weeks.

Santa Lucia - Congratulations to St. Francis who clinched the league this week and their play-off spot with a win over Harbor to go 3-0 in league. St. Francis has one league game left against Pajaro Valley who is 0-2 in league and even with a loss they would win all head to head tiebreakers.
Incredibly detailed report - EXCELLENT work!
 
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As a Salinas alum, this would be the best possible draw. M-A 1st round, then Bellarmine or VC 2nd? Perfect. You don’t want to have to beat both Serra and St. Francis.
 
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Week seven saw some upsets in Mt. Hamilton, WCAL and Mission leagues that will impact the field and seedings. Compared to last week only a couple of changes as St. Ignatius is back in the field at the expense of Riordan (they will settle this on the field in a couple of weeks), North Salinas replaces Monterey from the Mission League and Lincoln's decisive win puts them in the field over Silver Creek.

One of the big game week 8 is Aptos vs San Benito. The winner likely will be the 8 seed in DI with the loser the top seed in Division 2.

D 1 (last week) all these teams are currently ranked in the top 100 in California by Calpreps. Bellarmine's loss dropped them from 2 to 6 and Salinas gained a point from having Aptos move to #100 in the state and gaining a couple of places in the section rankings.

1. St. Francis 81 (1)
2 .Menlo-Atherton 75.5 (3)
3. Serra 73.2 (4)
4. Salinas 72.5 (6)
5. Los Gatos 72 (5)
6. Bellarmine 72 (2)
7. Valley Christian 67 (7)
8. Aptos 65 (8)

D 2 - Wilcox dropped from 2 to 4 and Burlingame went from 4 to 2. Riordan was in D2 but now projected for 7th place in WCAL and replaced by Saint Ignatius. SHC moved up from D3 to D2 based on Bellarmine upset and Leland went from D2 to D3 based on upset loss to Santa Teresa.

1 .San Benito 64 (1)
2. Burlingame 61 (4)
3. Palma 60 (3)
4. Wilcox 59.5 (2)
5. Menlo 56.5 (5)
6. St. Ignatius 56 (not in field)
7. Sacred Heart Cathedral 55 (was #5 in D3)
8. Santa Cruz 54.5 (7)

D3

1. Half Moon Bay 52.7 (3)
2. Live Oak 50.8 (1)
3. Leland 50.3 (6 in D2)
4, Christopher 47 (4)
5. Homestead 46 (6)
6. Mountain View 43.5 (2)
7. Leigh 42 (7)
8. Palo Alto (4 in D4)

D4
1. Terra Nova 39 (2)
2. Sacred Heart Prep 38 (1)
3. Santa Teresa 37.5 (1 in D5)
4. Alisal 7.4 (8 in D3)
5. Scotts Valley 37 (3)
6. Hillsdale 34 (6)
7. Pioneer 33 (5)
8. San Mateo 32.6 (7)

D5
1. King City 30.2 (2)
2. Cupertino 30.2 (8 in D4)
3. Lincoln 29 (not in field - replaces Silver Creek who was #3 in D5)
4. North Salinas 27.4 (not in field replaces Monterey who was #4 in D5)
5. Soquel 23.5 (5)
6. Los Altos 23 (6)
7. St. Francis (Watsonville) 22 (7)
8. Hill 19 (8)
 
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A look at the league races and at-large standings

Deanza - Homestead with a slight upset over Mountain View puts them in a position to get third place in the league. Mountain View plays Palo Alto in week 8 with the winner likely to get the fourth automatic spot and the loser well postioned to be an at-large team. Milpitas win over Santa Clara in Week 7 leaves them alive for an at-large berth but they must knock off a higher ranked league team to get there. Los Gatos and Wilcox continue to roll to the #1 and # 2 spots in the league. Los Gatos is the only team in the league in the top 100 providing bonus points to league opponents.

Gabilan - Big win by San Benito over Palma. Top of the league has Salinas undefeated with a game with Palma still on the schedule. Aptos and San Benito both have one loss and square off in week 8 with the winner still in contention to win the league outright if Salinas losses as Salinas had a league game cancelled due to Covid. Christopher is well positioned for fifth place and the week 10 winner between Alisal and Alvarez will likely place sixth in league and gain an at-large spot. Both Salinas and Aptos are currently ranked in States top 100 and San Benito and Palma are in the top 150 giving lots of bonus points to Gailban League teams.

PAL-Bay After all the week 6 dramatics all the week 7 games went to favorites by a decisive margin Menlo-Atherton is favored to win the league and is in the top 100 in the state. Burlingame is still undefeated and has clinched an automatic berth from the league and is now ranked in the top 150 and these teams square off in week 9. Half Moon Bay and Sacred Heart Prep are positioned to gain the other two at-Large spots. Terra Nova is likely to get an at-large berth.

WCAL- Sacred Heart Cathedral's upset over Bellarmine shook up the middle of the league's standings. Serra and St. Francis both figure to go into their week 10 showdown undefeated on the season. Mitty is likely to finish 8th. Positions 3-7 are up for grabs. This wee SHC plays Riordan and SHC can clinch at least a play-ff berth with a win. Toss up games still ahead include Bellarmine vs Valley Christian, SHC vs Riordan and SI and Riordan and SI play in week 9. Using the current rankings as the basis to proejct all these close games shows Bellarmine, Valley Christian finishing in a 3 way tie for third at 4-3 (would represent SHC's best finish in the WCAL tieing them with the 2008-09 team their first year back in the WCAL). The winner of SI-Riordan (SI A slight favorite in a toss up game) would get the final WCAL at-large berth.

Mount Hamilton - Currently a four way tie for first at 3-1 between Leland, Live Oak, Santa Teresa, and Lincoln. Santa Teresa upset Leland this week 14-7 and in a toss-up game Lincoln crushed Silver Creek. These four teams figure to get the four automatic berths. Leland and Live Oak know project to end as co-champions. Overflew is favored to finish 5th put is unlikely to ahve enough points to gain an at-large berth.

Mission League - SAnta Cruz continues to roll toward an undefeated and league championship season. The next four teams are locked in tight race forthe leagues other two automatic spots. Gilroy upset Monterey this week and the current projections have Soquel and North Salinas as lsight favorites to gain the two play-off berths. One spot is likely to come down to a week 10 showdown between North Salinas and Gilroy.

PAL-Ocean - Menlo continues to be undefeated on the year and faces Capuchino who has only one loss in league and extended Hillsdale to overtime last week before losing 42-41. Hillsdale is still positioned for the second spot but will likely need to get by their rival Aragon in week 10 to get ott he play-offs. With current projections Aragon is the first team out just missing the final at-large berth.

El Camino - Unusual Monday game this week as Los Altos plays a rescheduled game with Fremont and will look to stay undefeated in league. Cupertino faces their highest rnaked opponent so far this year in Gunn in their attempt to stay undefeated. Cupertino and Los Altos are currently projected to the two play-off spots but Gunn and Fremont both are n the hunt to climb into one of the top two spots.

Santa Teresa - No upsets this week. Pioneer remains the leagues lone unbeaten team with Sobrato, Leigh and and Branham having one league loss. Pioneer with wins already in place over Sobrato and and Leigh faces off with Brnaham this week. A Pioneer win this week clinches a play-off spot. If Brnahm pulls off the upset it will likely leave a four way tie int he league with two weeks to go. Leigh is favored for the second play-off spot but still has Sobrato and Branham on their schedule. The third palce team is unlikely to get an at-large spot.

Cypress - Scotts Valley travels to King City this week for the league championship in a league that only gets one automatic spot. The loser is still in good shape to get an at-large berth. King City is coming off of three shut outs in a row and has only allowed 14 points in league. Scotts Valley also has three consecutive league shut-outs and has given up 13 points in league play.

Santa Lucia - Saint Francis of Watsonville has already clinched the league's sole play-off spot from this C league.

PAL-Lake - San Mateo 7-0 on the season finsihes out league play with 1-6 El Camino and clinches their play off spot with a win this week.

West Valley - Gunderson travels to Hill as the league's two remaining undefeated teams play this week. A win by Hill will all but wrap up the league for Hill. a Gunderson win will leave only a one lose Del Mar ahead. In a three way tie Hill is likely to previal for the league's only play-off spot.
 
Hearing San Benito dropping game vs Aptos due to Covid. How does that effect playoff seedings?
If that's the case Salinas basically wins title (?) even with a loss to Palma , as they (Salinas) will now have the same amount of league games, plus victories over both San Benito and Aptos.
 
If that's the case Salinas basically wins title (?) even with a loss to Palma , as they (Salinas) will now have the same amount of league games, plus victories over both San Benito and Aptos.
No, if Hollister and Aptos win out and Salinas loses to Palma, it’s a shared tri-championship title. There are no tie-breakers when it comes to this for CCS playoff points.

We would know that Salinas was the true league champ, but the CCS would not see it that way.
 
Mount Hamilton is basically a B league now. Top team can’t even break into the D-II playoffs? Sheesh.

The CCS should use the out-of-section criteria for its own league averages. If a league has an average rating of 8+, it’s an A league. If it’s between 7.9 and -19.9, B league. Lower than -20, C league. Right now, the MHAL is sitting at -3.1.

The breakdown is actually pretty nice and realistic (more so than the CCS formula):

A leagues: WCAL, PAL-B, PCAL-GB, SCVAL-DA

B leagues: STAL-MH, PAL-O, PCAL-M, STAL-ST

C leagues: STAL-WV, PCAL-C, PCAL-SL, PAL-L, SCVAL-EC
 
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Hearing San Benito dropping game vs Aptos due to Covid. How does that effect playoff seeding
With the game not being played San Benito edges ahead of Aptos in the seedings. Aptos was at 65 points losses 4 points (1 point for playing an A team, 2 points for their projected win and one point for having playing a team in the top 150 and through the nine game formula gain back 2.12 points for a net loss of 1.88 to end up at 63.12.

San Benito was at 64 points and losses 3 points (1 point for not playing an A team, 2 points for not playing a team in the top 100) and gains back 2.22 points on the nine game formula for a net loss of 0.78 and they end up at 63.22

This moves San Benito from #1 seed in D2 to #1 seed in D1 and they switch places with Aptos. It is likely that it will remain close between these two teams for that spot.
 
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Mount Hamilton is basically a B league now. Top team can’t even break into the D-II playoffs? Sheesh.

The CCS should use the out-of-section criteria for its own league averages. If a league has an average rating of 8+, it’s an A league. If it’s between 7.9 and -19.9, B league. Lower than -20, C league. Right now, the MHAL is sitting at -3.1.

The breakdown is actually pretty nice and realistic (more so than the CCS formula):

A leagues: WCAL, PAL-B, PCAL-GB, SCVAL-DA

B leagues: STAL-MH, PAL-O, PCAL-M, STAL-ST

C leagues: STAL-WV, PCAL-C, PCAL-SL, PAL-L, SCVAL-EC
Agree with you completely. I think the CCS made a good change in how they rate non-CCS opponents (Calpreps ranking instead of wins) - I also think they should get rid of the point for playing a league champion outside of CCS. The CCS league rankings should match the non-CCS games as you suggested. Another method would be to actually give schedule points based on the teams played and their final ranking rather than have an automatic designation by league. So this year Live Oak and Leland would be A teams, the teams lower than 8 and higher than -20 would be B teams and Oak Grove if they stay lower than -20 would be a C team.
 
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Agree with you completely. I think the CCS made a good change in how they rate non-CCS opponents (Calpreps ranking instead of wins) - I also think they should get rid of the point for playing a league champion outside of CCS. The CCS league rankings should match the non-CCS games as you suggested. Another method would be to actually give schedule points based on the teams played and their final ranking rather than have an automatic designation by league. So this year Live Oak and Leland would be A teams, the teams lower than 8 and higher than -20 would be B teams and Oak Grove if they stay lower than -20 would be a C team.
how does rankings for non-ccs opponent work? is it what that team is ranked when the game played or what they are ranked end of season? Say a preseason non-ccs opponent moves up in calprep rankings and adds point value at end of year vs when game played beg of year?
 
Another method would be to actually give schedule points based on the teams played and their final ranking rather than have an automatic designation by league. So this year Live Oak and Leland would be A teams, the teams lower than 8 and higher than -20 would be B teams and Oak Grove if they stay lower than -20 would be a C team.
I was thinking about this, too, after my post. I think it would make a lot more sense.
 
how does rankings for non-ccs opponent work? is it what that team is ranked when the game played or what they are ranked end of season? Say a preseason non-ccs opponent moves up in calprep rankings and adds point value at end of year vs when game played beg of year?
End of year. Preseason/early season ratings are meaningless.
 
Here are the CCS Projected field and seedings after Week 8 play

Only a change in two teams as Riordan projected to replace SI in D2 and Gunn to replace Los Altos in D5.

D 1 (last week) San Benito edged in front of Aptos for the 8th spot int he Division I field after the Aptos vs San Benito game got cancelled due to Covid this week.

1. St. Francis 81 (1)
2 .Menlo-Atherton 73.5 (2)
3. Serra 73.2 (3)
4. Salinas 72.5 (4)
5. Los Gatos 72 (5)
6. Bellarmine 72 (6)
7. Valley Christian 67 (7)
8. San Benito 63.2 (1 in D2 last week - replaces Aptos)

D 2 - Aptos moved from d1 to D2. Half Moon Bay's 42-41 mild upset over Burlingame moved Burlingame from 2 to 7 and moved Half Moon Bay from D3 to the 6th seed in D2. Riordan's win over SHC put them back in the bracket over SI and dropped SHC to D3.

1 .Aptos 63.1 (8 in D 1)
2. Palma 61 (3)
3. Wilcox 61 (4)
4. Menlo 57.5 (5)
5. Riordan 57.5 (not in field replaces Saint Ignatius who was #6 in D2))
6. Half Moon Bay 56.3 (was #1 in D3)
7. Burlingame 55 (2)
8. Santa Cruz 53.5 (8)

D3- SHC loss dropped them to D3. Palo Alto 35-34 win over Mountain View shuffled seeds at the bottom of the bracket. Leland got a bump from Live Oak-Lincoln game cancelling and creating projection of sole champion for Mt. Hamilton league.

1. Leland 52.5 (3)
2. Live Oak 50.8 (2)
3. Christopher 49 (4)
4. Sacred Heart Cathedral 47 (#5 in D2)
5. Palo Alto 44 (8)
6. Homestead 42 (5)
7. Leigh 41 (7)
8. Mountain View 40.5 (6)

D4 Santa Teresa and Terra Nova swapped the #1 and #3 spots. Scotts Valley and Sacred Heart Prep swapped the #2 and #5 spots. Lincoln jumped up to the 8th seed in D4 from the #3 spot in D5 and pushed San Mateo into D5

1. Santa Teresa 39.5 (3)
2. Scotts Valley 37 (5)
3. Terra Nova 37 (1)
4. Alisal 36.4 (4)
5. Sacred Heart Prep 35 (2)
6. Hillsdale 34 (6)
7. Pioneer 34 (7)
8. Lincoln 30.5 (#3 in D5)

D5 - San Mateo drops from #8 in D4 to #1 in D5 and bumps King City and Cupertino down a seed. Gunn rjeoins field and replaces Los Altos.

1. San Mateo 29.6 (#8 in D4)
2. King City 29.2 (1)
3. Cupertino 26.6 (2)
4. North Salinas 27.4 (4)
5. Gunn 25.8 (re[laces Los Altos who was #6 in D5 last week)
6. Soquel 25.5 (5)
7. St. Francis (Watsonville) 21 (7)
8. Hill 19 (8)
 
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A number of leagues have a number of automatic qualifying or at-large spots in the air going into the last two week that will be decided in highly competitive games. A number of teams are on the bubble, but control their own fate as they play head to head. Also Covid is starting to impact play as a sprinkling of games are cancelled and a number of leagues will have a situation where everyone doesn't play an equal number of league games.

Deanza - While Los Gatos and Wilcox are secure on the top of the league standings. The next three teams (Homestead, Palo Alto and Milpitas) are all 2-2 and Mountain View is 2-3 in this seven team league. Palo Alto plays Milpitas this week with the winner likely to claim one of the last two auotmatic spots. Homestead will et an automatic spot if they can beat last place and winless in league Santa Clara in week 10. Mountain View will have enough points to make it as an at-large team. Palo Alto probably would as well if they lose to Milpitas, but Milpitas probably won't get in without securing an automatic berth.

Mt. Hamilton - This week's Lincoln vs Live Oak game between two of the four teams with only one league loss was cancelled. Even if both these teams win their final two games they will need one loss Santa Teresa or Leland to lose )or cancel a remaining game)or will finish 0.5 games behind. Right now it is looking like Leland will be favored to win the league, with Lincoln, Santa Teresa and Live Oak being shoe-ins for the other three automatic spots. Unlikely that an at-large team gets into he field from this league.

PAL-Bay - Menlo-Atherton continues to be favored to win the league. Burlingame was dropped from the list of unbeaten with a 1 42-41 overtime loss to Half Moon Bay. Burlingame, Half Moon Bay and Sacred Heart Prep all look well positioned to get the final three automatic spots. The leagues two winless teams Terra Nova and Kings Academy square off in week 9 with Terra Nova needing a win to secure an At-large spot.

Gabilan - Anticiated showdown between San Benito and Aptos was cancncelled due to Covid. Salinas will win the league outright by winning the final two games (one against Palma). A Slinas loss would likely create Sri-champions. Palma, Aptos and San Bito will et automatic berths. Christopher should finish fifth and get an at-larger berth. The leagues sixth place spot will come down to a week 10 showdown between rivals Alisal and Alverez with Alisal favored to win and get an At-Large berth.

WCAL - St.Francis and Serra continue to be locked into a Week 10 battle of undefeated teams to settle the league championship. Valley Christian is in third place at 3-2 and Bellarmine, Sacred Heart Cathedral, and Riordan are 2-3 in League with SI being 1-4 and Mitty is 0-5. The 3rd through 6th places are still very much in play. Current projections would have Bellarmine and VC in a tie for 3rd and getting the last two automatic spots. SHC and Riordan ending tied for fifth and both getting in as At-large teams. This week Riordan faces SI. A Riordan win would clinch a play-off berth. an SI win would position them well for an at-large spot. VC plays Bellarmine. A VC win guarantees them third place in the league and puts Bellarmine at risk for not making the play-offs without a week 10 over SI. A Bellarmine win would at least secure a play-off spot for Bellarmine.

Pal-Ocean - Menlo has clinched a playoff spot and goes undefeated in league with a week 9 win over Carlmont who is winless in league. One loss Aragon and Hillsdale will both be favored this week and would face off in week 10 to determine the second spot. Unlikely that an at0large team will emerge from his league.

Santa Teresa - Pioneer only needs to beat the bottom two teams in the league to secure the league championship. Leigh will play at Sobrato this week with the winner likely to get the second automatic spot. No team in this league is likely to get an at-large spot

Mission - Monterey and North Salinas rescheduled their weekend game to Monday for Covid reasons. Santa Cruz continues to look like they will glide through league undefeated. The second and third spots are a three team race between North Salinas, Soquel and Gilroy with Soquel and North Salinas being slight favorites to gain the final two spots.

Cyprus - Scoots Valley decisively beat King city in the battle of the leagues two unbeaten teams and will get the league's only automatic spot. King City is still in position to get the sections last at-large berth by winning out.

El Camino - Still a very tight race as Gunn beat undefeated Cupertino. Gunn and Cupertino both have one loss in league. Cupertino plays undefeated Los Altos in week 10. The winner will get one of the automatic spots, but Gunn is likely to get the other. The loser of Los Altos and Cupertino is unlikely to make the play offs as an at-large team and Los Altos is likely odd man out in a case of Sri-champions due to lower total points.

PAl-Lake - San Mateo is the leagues only automatic qualifier based on ElCamino's loss last week. San Mateo is one of only seven section undefeated teams (Serra,, St. Francis, Los Gatos, Salinas, Menlo, and Santa Cruz are the others) but will have to navigate rival Burlingame as an underdog to finish the regular season without a loss.

West Valley - Hill won the league's showdown of undefeated teams over Gunderson. Hill will still have to navigate one loss Yuerba Buena this week but looks like a solid favorite to win the league and the only automatic spot.

Santa Lucia - St. Francis of Watsonville clinched this a few weeks ago and will go to the CCS play-offs.
 
Here are the CCS Projected field and seedings after Week 8 play

Only a change in two teams as Riordan projected to replace SI in D2 and Gunn to replace Los Altos in D5.

D 1 (last week) San Benito edged in front of Aptos for the 8th spot int he Division I field after the Aptos vs San Benito game got cancelled due to Covid this week. The only other change was that Salinas lost a point this week as Aptos dropped in the state ranking from 100 to 102 and dropped from the 4th to 6th seed.

1. St. Francis 81 (1)
2 .Menlo-Atherton 73.5 (2)
3. Serra 73.2 (3)
4. Los Gatos 72 (5)
5. Bellarmine 72 (6)
6. Salinas 71.5 (4)
7. Valley Christian 67 (7)
8. San Benito 63.2 (1 in D2 last week - replaces Aptos)

D 2 - Aptos moved from d1 to D2. Half Moon Bay's 42-41 mild upset over Burlingame moved Burlingame from 2 to 7 and moved Half Moon Bay from D3 to the 6th seed in D2. Riordan's win over SHC put them back in the bracket over SI and dropped SHC to D3.

1 .Aptos 63.1 (8 in D 1)
2. Wilcox 61 (4)
3. Palma 60 (3)
4. Menlo 57.5 (5)
5. Riordan 57.5 (not in field replaces Saint Ignatius who was #6 in D2))
6. Half Moon Bay 56.3 (was #1 in D3)
7. Burlingame 55 (2)
8. Santa Cruz 53.5 (8)

D3- SHC loss dropped them to D3. Palo Alto 35-34 win over Mountain View shuffled seeds at the bottom of the bracket. Leland got a bump from Live Oak-Lincoln game cancelling and creating projection of sole champion for Mt. Hamilton league.

1. Leland 52.5 (3)
2. Live Oak 50.8 (2)
3. Christopher 48 (4)
4. Sacred Heart Cathedral 47 (#5 in D2)
5. Palo Alto 44 (8)
6. Homestead 42 (5)
7. Leigh 41 (7)
8. Mountain View 40.5 (6)

D4 Santa Teresa and Terra Nova swapped the #1 and #3 spots. Scotts Valley and Sacred Heart Prep swapped the #2 and #5 spots. Lincoln jumped up to the 8th seed in D4 from the #3 spot in D5 and pushed San Mateo into D5

1. Santa Teresa 39.5 (3)
2. Scotts Valley 37 (5)
3. Terra Nova 37 (1)
4. Alisal 35.4 (4)
5. Sacred Heart Prep 35 (2)
6. Hillsdale 34 (6)
7. Pioneer 34 (7)
8. Lincoln 30.5 (#3 in D5)

D5 - San Mateo drops from #8 in D4 to #1 in D5 and bumps King City and Cupertino down a seed. Gunn rjeoins field and replaces Los Altos.

1. San Mateo 29.6 (#8 in D4)
2. King City 29.2 (1)
3. Cupertino 26.6 (2)
4. North Salinas 27.4 (4)
5. Gunn 25.8 (re[laces Los Altos who was #6 in D5 last week)
6. Soquel 25.5 (5)
7. St. Francis (Watsonville) 21 (7)
8. Hill 19 (8)
Which division entries are eligible for state playoffs at the conclusion of section action?
 
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The winner of each of the five divisions advance to the regional/state play-offs - They changed from having to be from the top 3 divisions and two runner-ups.
 
The winner of each of the five divisions advance to the regional/state play-offs - They changed from having to be from the top 3 divisions and two runner-ups.
Imagine ST or Leland moving on to a regional game, just not right. Too bad we don’t send our best.
 
Even more shocking, how about a truly bad C Division unit playing in a state title tilt? Oh, I forgot. The AAA champion has already done that _ and won. Heaven help us in AYSO Perpetually Happy Equityland.
 
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Imagine ST or Leland moving on to a regional game, just not right. Too bad we don’t send our best.
That's not the intent of the bowl games. No division ever sends all of their best teams in any capacity or sport. Lower division bowl games exist for lower division teams.
 
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Why did you give Menlo School the #4 seed and not give it to Riordan?

It looks to me both teams have 57.5 points, so it would be tie.
It seems to me that the committee would compare both teams games played this season.

How would Menlo win that comparison?

Riordan will have played more teams in the CalPreps Top 25 CCS teams in the Section, and won more games vs. Teams in the CCS Top 25.

Riordan plays in a CCS 'A' league, Menlo plays in a CCS 'B' league. Menlo is the Champion of that 'B' League.

Menlo will have played 3 teams with positive rankings, as long as Sacred Heart Prep maintains it's positive ranking after the game is played. None of the teams on Menlo's schedule are in the CalPreps Top 25 CCS teams.

Riordan will have played 9 teams with positive rankings. 6 of the teams on Riordan's schedule are in the CalPreps Top 25 CCS teams and Riordan has won 1 game vs. those 6 teams at this time, with 2 games still to be played.
 
So Sacred Heart gets in the easier bracket (therefore could do some damage in playoffs) for getting smacked by Riordan?

Congrats to 1000 student HMB who doesn't complain about the BS they have been dealt for being good. They are a rare medium school public who runs a good program in the Bay Area, mostly only occur in the Valley now, except for a few exceptions.
 
HMB solved its seeding problem this year by scheduling Salinas, Los Gatos and Serra in the pre-season. All three contests were projected to be probable losses early on, solidifying a bump down out of Division I.
 
Why did you give Menlo School the #4 seed and not give it to Riordan?

It looks to me both teams have 57.5 points, so it would be tie.
It seems to me that the committee would compare both teams games played this season.

How would Menlo win that comparison?

Riordan will have played more teams in the CalPreps Top 25 CCS teams in the Section, and won more games vs. Teams in the CCS Top 25.

Riordan plays in a CCS 'A' league, Menlo plays in a CCS 'B' league. Menlo is the Champion of that 'B' League.

Menlo will have played 3 teams with positive rankings, as long as Sacred Heart Prep maintains it's positive ranking after the game is played. None of the teams on Menlo's schedule are in the CalPreps Top 25 CCS teams.

Riordan will have played 9 teams with positive rankings. 6 of the teams on Riordan's schedule are in the CalPreps Top 25 CCS teams and Riordan has won 1 game vs. those 6 teams at this time, with 2 games still to be played.
Good news. The Week 8 CCS projections have Riordan playing Menlo School in Round 1 in Division 2. So we'll find out if the Crusaders are as terrific as stated above. Any pre-tourney argument will be settled on the field if things go as predicted. The difference between a 4 seed and a 5 seed is virtually nil. It's a wash. By the way, if you haven't seen Menlo play, take a good gander at them. They would be competitive with the bottom half of the WCAL. Make no mistake about it.
 
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