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Vince Wirthman is retiring at Miramonte after five years (87-43 overall, 41-14 in DAL).
 
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On Edjoin, I saw that the Half Moon Bay Head Coaching job is listed..

They are required to post job every year, but job is not open. Only becomes an issue if a teacher on staff wants the job vs off-campus coach
What is interesting is that actually happened at HMB in the early 2000's. Coach Racine was running a nice program but a teacher wanted the job so by union contract, Racine was let go. Also happened at Aragon in girls volleyball - won CCS then the coach was let go the as a teacher wanted the position.
 
What is interesting is that actually happened at HMB in the early 2000's. Coach Racine was running a nice program but a teacher wanted the job so by union contract, Racine was let go. Also happened at Aragon in girls volleyball - won CCS then the coach was let go the as a teacher wanted the position.
This is known unofficially as the "Rialto rule" dating to an instance at Rialto High in SoCal about 30 years ago. A basketball job was given to an off-campus applicant when there was a qualified on-campus applicant. The on-campus applicant sued and prevailed.
 
They have to be credentialed and on campus.
The janitor or lunch lady who work on campus aren't eligible. Also, the school can say the credentialed person doesn't fit the criteria of the position. But the school probably doesn't want to deal with it so they just bump the non credentialed off campus coach
 
I have heard that the Maria Carrillo job is open here in Santa Rosa, the Casa Grande High School job in Petaluma, and that the Ukiah job is also open.
 
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What's going on in the North Bay? There might be more openings than qualified candidates.
 
Everybody's tired of losing to Newman, MC, and Redwood over here..... In all seriousness, there are not enough players to currently build around. They are coming though. 4-8th have bodies and talent. Lots playing club. We are currently still filtering through the covid middle school classes from 2020-21. The talent level from those classes is thin...girls playing soccer, lax, or vollwyball (thats another story over here). The JV level last year was at an all time low and only Redwood had a freshman team. Doesn't give coaches much hope right now. Gonna take some patience and participation at the youth level.
 
Count your blessings. You don't have to be a CCS public school mentor and have to deal with not one but two very strong private/parochial leagues (Pinewood, Menlo, Priory, SI, SHC, SF, VC, Riordan and, oh, yes, nearly forgot about Mitty) that suction off the vast bulk of the available talent in the entire West Bay region. Talk about frustrating.
 
I think MCAL will be fun at the top next year. RW, MC and San Marin lost a solid senior class, but I think those games will be as competitive as ever. RW has the size, but San Marin just has that get after it mentality. MC will be light depth wise, but athletic. The coaches know each other way too well for it not to be fun.
 
Volleyball is having an impact everywhere. No running, no contact ...

Regardless, that's a lot of head coaching jobs to fill.
 
What is interesting is that actually happened at HMB in the early 2000's. Coach Racine was running a nice program but a teacher wanted the job so by union contract, Racine was let go. Also happened at Aragon in girls volleyball - won CCS then the coach was let go the as a teacher wanted the position.
I believe you might mean Coach Kevin Ostenberg. Not familiar with the name Racine.

Best swishes,
Coach Forslund
 
I just saw Valley Christian, Dublin has an opening. I wasn't aware they still had a high school, let alone a team.
 
Emerald will have varsity teams next year, and apparently will play in the BVAL. It could be a long road, though, as their JVs last year were 7-22.
 
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Might as well quit on top. Pretty good career: One season, one state title, ride off into the sunset.
 
Might as well quit on top. Pretty good career: One season, one state title, ride off into the sunset.
She could have set her sights on winning the league title. These days it seems it’s easier to win section or state than a league title. Redwood beat them all 3 times.
 
She could have set her sights on winning the league title. These days it seems it’s easier to win section or state than a league title. Redwood beat them all 3 times.
What kind of kompromat does MC have on the seeding committee? After winning THEIR FOURTH STRAIGHT SECTION TITLE (D2) they get DROPPED down to D3 for the State Playoffs. Pretty advantageous seeding one may say 🤷
 
What kind of kompromat does MC have on the seeding committee? After winning THEIR FOURTH STRAIGHT SECTION TITLE (D2) they get DROPPED down to D3 for the State Playoffs. Pretty advantageous seeding one may say 🤷
Weren’t they rewarded with a 10th seed the year before in Division 1 the year before ?
 
Weren’t they rewarded with a 10th seed the year before in Division 1 the year before ?


Yeah..and?

FOUR STRAIGHT SECTION TITLES...FOUR!!!!!!

U win a secrion title your SUPPOSED to be placed higher in CE...

And your complaining about being in D1 after winning your 3rd straight section title last year???

I mean seriously at what point is it ok for the MC girls to actually have to play someone???
 
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Yeah..and?

FOUR STRAIGHT SECTION TITLES...FOUR!!!!!!

U win a secrion title your SUPPOSED to be placed higher in CE...

And your complaining about being in D1 after winning your 3rd straight section title last year???

I mean seriously at what point is it ok for the MC girls to actually have to play someone???
Honestly I could care less about girls basketball tbh, you’re the one crying about it not me
 
This is known unofficially as the "Rialto rule" dating to an instance at Rialto High in SoCal about 30 years ago. A basketball job was given to an off-campus applicant when there was a qualified on-campus applicant. The on-campus applicant sued and prevailed.
Good knowledge
 
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Weren’t they rewarded with a 10th seed the year before in Division 1 the year before ?
Shooters … Couple of them on that team. Watched them play in the state game. Anyone playing div 1 college next year on that team ? Congrats to the girls and school .
 
A coupl;e things.

I saw Marin Catholic (announced the game, as a matter of fact), and Carondelet beat them 76-40. Granted, Carondelet was good, but that's 36 points. Then again, they beat Pinole by 18, and if you look at their schedule, they were very up and down. Which means they just got hot at the right time, which is how you win a state title (Carondelet would be another example of that).

I don't know how you could have predicted that all of a sudden MC would turn things around and play really well. When I saw them on Feb. 1, they were not a competitive team. They looked like a team that could beat bad teams but didn't have the juice to play with the big girls.

They went 13-1 after that, and again, that came out of nowhere.

And previous results aren't that predictive at this level. To say they won four straight NCS titles and now a state title doesn't say much about how they'll do in 25-26. Anyone want to bet the farm they'll win another section crown? They graduate five seniors and will have a new coach. They graduated five seniors the year before and had a new coach.

You can say private schools just reload, but if that's true, only a few can. Most schools, public or private, have intermittent success based on the talent at hand, and when the talent is juniors and seniors, you win. When that talent moves on, you lose.

So should a team be placed in a division based on what they did the year before, when the talent was there? Or on the results of a long season that just finished?
 
A coupl;e things.

I saw Marin Catholic (announced the game, as a matter of fact), and Carondelet beat them 76-40. Granted, Carondelet was good, but that's 36 points. Then again, they beat Pinole by 18, and if you look at their schedule, they were very up and down. Which means they just got hot at the right time, which is how you win a state title (Carondelet would be another example of that).

I don't know how you could have predicted that all of a sudden MC would turn things around and play really well. When I saw them on Feb. 1, they were not a competitive team. They looked like a team that could beat bad teams but didn't have the juice to play with the big girls.

They went 13-1 after that, and again, that came out of nowhere.

And previous results aren't that predictive at this level. To say they won four straight NCS titles and now a state title doesn't say much about how they'll do in 25-26. Anyone want to bet the farm they'll win another section crown? They graduate five seniors and will have a new coach. They graduated five seniors the year before and had a new coach.

You can say private schools just reload, but if that's true, only a few can. Most schools, public or private, have intermittent success based on the talent at hand, and when the talent is juniors and seniors, you win. When that talent moves on, you lose.

So should a team be placed in a division based on what they did the year before, when the talent was there? Or on the results of a long season that just finished?
It's interesting...years ago on here, I said that teams could move up by two ways. Success (section/regional/state championships) and by petition. Those who petition would have to stay in said division for at least 3 years BUT could move up a division if they wanted. I remember back in the 90's and early 2000's, teams would move up to Division 2 because it was the weakest of all the divisions.

The best private teams are from areas where the public schools suck and/or there is a pipeline. BOD and Salesian are the two that come to mind. Mitty is a prime example of success breeds success. When SHC was dominant in the early 2000's, they had the Mission Rec pipeline. It's hard for me to imagine that there are very many terrible public schools in Marin County. I could be wrong. MC has been dominant in most of it's sports and a lot of families can afford to send their kids to MC.
 
Everybody's tired of losing to Newman, MC, and Redwood over here..... In all seriousness, there are not enough players to currently build around. They are coming though. 4-8th have bodies and talent. Lots playing club. We are currently still filtering through the covid middle school classes from 2020-21. The talent level from those classes is thin...girls playing soccer, lax, or vollwyball (thats another story over here). The JV level last year was at an all time low and only Redwood had a freshman team. Doesn't give coaches much hope right now. Gonna take some patience and participation at the youth level.
The disruption of club volleyball (and the rise in lacrosse) season on the winter and spring sports teams is often not talked about, but definitely a factor in less depth in basketball and pretty much the death of high school softball in some parts of the Bay Area. You are correct in that there are just not enough athletes to go around and fill two full teams of kids.
 
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