HMB is run-heavy. Wilcox, a bigger and deeper version of The Moon, is also run-heavy. Padres have their hands full.
No way HMB should have been down in D3 or D4 - they were too good for that level. But they should have been in D2. Its just that many of the normal powerhouse teams were less than expected this year. The new CCS system will work better if the top 15-20 teams of CCS are doing well.Gotta give HMB credit for a great season and for hanging with Serra for a half at least. And belated credit to Serra’s coaching staff for recognizing what should have been an obvious advantage. Why run the spread when you have the opponent outmanned like they did?
Unfortunate HMB won’t be representing Norcal in D3 or D4 where they belong, but they have a lot to be proud of this year.
This note is for Defense Rules: Would you say that Wilcox bears some resemblance to VC? Or is that a bogus view right off the bat?
I think they are very similar offensively. but VC has big advantage defensively. I wish VC had Rosa in its backfield. He’s a game changer.
* SHC finishes the season winless at 0-10 despite combining their JV and varsity together. Even with the 2 rosters merged the Irish were lacking in roster numbers and talent on both sides of the ball. Next year they again return their 3 year starter at QB, but will the Irish be any better? With the 2 rosters having merged any help upcoming has to come from this years' frosh roster which went 3-6 overall and 2-5 in league win's over S.I. frosh by 18-0 and VC frosh by 28-12
Always appreciate your views but HMB was 0-5 in the Bay last year . This is another issue with the PAL. If you win you go up if you lose you go down. This is High School football for most teams things change drastically every year. Most savvy PAL fans know what teams are Bay,Ocean and Lake and they should stay in those divisions for say five years and then realize as needed. No team is supposed to win every year.In other HMB news, you could state that The Moon should never have been relegated to the PAL Ocean (B) Division in the first place at the end of the 2018 season. But that's convenient hindsight now. So it wasn't just the adjusted 2019 CCS playoff formula that misdirected the gritty and well-coached Cougars. Then again, it's entirely possible that they would have gone 5-0 or 4-1 in the upper Bay (A) Division, again, perhaps, shoving them into CCS Division I anyway at 10-0 or 9-1.
WCAL Football 2019-20: Round II CCS Semi-Finals - Div I [aka "Big Boys Division"]
Serra Padres 10-1 vs Wilcox Chargers 9-2
Wilcox Season Game Results:
Valley Christian 23-13 = Loss [VC had 3 FG's in game incl a 43-yarder]
San Benito 34-20 = Win
Leland 49-34 = W
Pitt 35-31 = L
Paly 26-15 = W
Los Gatos 37-0 = W
Mt View 42-3 = W
Milpitas 49-21 = W
Santa Clara 63-7 = W
Fremont 44-0 = W
M-A 42-35 = W, Round 1 Div I Playoffs
* Wilcox offense avg 39 points per game [PPG] while Serra avg 36 PPG.
* Wilcox defense allows 17.5 PPG whereas Serra allows 13 PPG.
* For the season Wilcox has scored 60 TD's to the Padres 50.
* Common opponent Pittsburg Wilcox lost 35-31 and Serra won 58-21.
* 2nd common opponent Valley Christian Wilcox lost 23-13 and Serra won 10-0.
* Serra is ranked #1 in CCS while Wilcox is ranked #4.
* Serra roster shows 61 players and Wilcox 49.
As one poster alluded to that Wilcox is a "run heavy team & bigger version of HMB" is an accurate description.
If there is any team that Wilcox resembles in the WCAL it is Valley Christian. Wilcox defense is not quite as good as VC's, however VC has the top defense in NorCal other than DLS. On offense Wilcox has rushed for more yardage and more TD's than VC which is also saying something. The Padres are up against the top ground game they will have faced this season in Wilcox. With that rushing attack comes possibly the best RB Serra will see for the season in Paul Rosa [5'8-180] the #3 RB in CCS for yards gained at over 1800 + 17 TD's. Rosa ran for 239 yards + 3 TD's vs M-A. The Chargers feature a 3 pronged rushing attack featuring Rosa along with their#2 RB Isaiah Flores [5'11-185] who has added another 100+ yards and 7 TD's and then the QB Geremy Mccooough [6'3-175] with approx. 500 yards and 7 TD's. The Wilcox O-line will be a chore for the Padres to handle much like the first 1/2 of the HMB game. Of the 3 players who run the ball Rosa averages 8.4 YPC, Flores averages 7.2 YPC and the QB Mccollough 6.0 YPC. Wilcox does not utilize a pass game to much extent as they pass even fewer times than Valley Christian averaging just 4 completions per game. When the Chargers QB Mccollough does pass the primary WR is Aaron Ah Sing [5'11-168] who is also their KR and has 4 TD catches.
Serra has started slow in its last 2 games vs HMB and S.I. and had trouble with both teams in stopping/limiting the run. The HMB opening drive against Serra was 23 plays and used up the entire 1rst quarter culminating in HMB's first score on the first play of the 2nd quarter. In that drive HMB converted 3 - 3rd downs and more impressive 3 - 4th downs to keep the drive alive [so 6 crucial downs when Serra was unable to stop the Cougars].Knowing Wilcox is going to run the ball 90% of the time how will the Padres counter on defense? Its an interesting question as Serra limited VC to its lowest offensive output of the season in the Padres 10-0 win, yet had difficulty with HMB & S.I. until adjustments were made at 1/2 time. Lie the S.I. game Serra also had its share of penalties against HMB helping the Cougars advance the ball and also pushing Serra back on offense at times.
Serra's new QB Lampkin shines at times and also shows the inexperience you'd expect from a soph after playing his first couple full games [facing VC, then S.I. and then HMB in your first 3 starts would give most soph's a full blown anxiety attack for sure - so props to Lampkin for hanging in there]. Once Lampkin settles down and understands when & when not to throw he'll rise to the next level. At times his hesitation is clear when getting ready to pass. With that Serra will be one of the best passing teams other than Pitt & M-A that Wilcox will have faced. Both Pitt and M-A had success passing against Wilcox. In the case of the Pitt game Pittsburg was unable to run against Wilcox, but was able to pass for over 300-yards mostly on short pass routes. Turn-overs and penalties key for Serra to keep to a minimum.
Projection: Serra 27-21
Does Serra have enough speed and athleticism on the perimeter to make Wilcox defend them in space?WCAL Football 2019-20: Round II CCS Semi-Finals - Div I [aka "Big Boys Division"]
Serra Padres 10-1 vs Wilcox Chargers 9-2
Wilcox Season Game Results:
Valley Christian 23-13 = Loss [VC had 3 FG's in game incl a 43-yarder]
San Benito 34-20 = Win
Leland 49-34 = W
Pitt 35-31 = L
Paly 26-15 = W
Los Gatos 37-0 = W
Mt View 42-3 = W
Milpitas 49-21 = W
Santa Clara 63-7 = W
Fremont 44-0 = W
M-A 42-35 = W, Round 1 Div I Playoffs
* Wilcox offense avg 39 points per game [PPG] while Serra avg 36 PPG.
* Wilcox defense allows 17.5 PPG whereas Serra allows 13 PPG.
* For the season Wilcox has scored 60 TD's to the Padres 50.
* Common opponent Pittsburg Wilcox lost 35-31 and Serra won 58-21.
* 2nd common opponent Valley Christian Wilcox lost 23-13 and Serra won 10-0.
* Serra is ranked #1 in CCS while Wilcox is ranked #4.
* Serra roster shows 61 players and Wilcox 49.
As one poster alluded to that Wilcox is a "run heavy team & bigger version of HMB" is an accurate description.
If there is any team that Wilcox resembles in the WCAL it is Valley Christian. Wilcox defense is not quite as good as VC's, however VC has the top defense in NorCal other than DLS. On offense Wilcox has rushed for more yardage and more TD's than VC which is also saying something. The Padres are up against the top ground game they will have faced this season in Wilcox. With that rushing attack comes possibly the best RB Serra will see for the season in Paul Rosa [5'8-180] the #3 RB in CCS for yards gained at over 1800 + 17 TD's. Rosa ran for 239 yards + 3 TD's vs M-A. The Chargers feature a 3 pronged rushing attack featuring Rosa along with their#2 RB Isaiah Flores [5'11-185] who has added another 100+ yards and 7 TD's and then the QB Geremy Mccooough [6'3-175] with approx. 500 yards and 7 TD's. The Wilcox O-line will be a chore for the Padres to handle much like the first 1/2 of the HMB game. Of the 3 players who run the ball Rosa averages 8.4 YPC, Flores averages 7.2 YPC and the QB Mccollough 6.0 YPC. Wilcox does not utilize a pass game to much extent as they pass even fewer times than Valley Christian averaging just 4 completions per game. When the Chargers QB Mccollough does pass the primary WR is Aaron Ah Sing [5'11-168] who is also their KR and has 4 TD catches.
Serra has started slow in its last 2 games vs HMB and S.I. and had trouble with both teams in stopping/limiting the run. The HMB opening drive against Serra was 23 plays and used up the entire 1rst quarter culminating in HMB's first score on the first play of the 2nd quarter. In that drive HMB converted 3 - 3rd downs and more impressive 3 - 4th downs to keep the drive alive [so 6 crucial downs when Serra was unable to stop the Cougars].Knowing Wilcox is going to run the ball 90% of the time how will the Padres counter on defense? Its an interesting question as Serra limited VC to its lowest offensive output of the season in the Padres 10-0 win, yet had difficulty with HMB & S.I. until adjustments were made at 1/2 time. Lie the S.I. game Serra also had its share of penalties against HMB helping the Cougars advance the ball and also pushing Serra back on offense at times.
Serra's new QB Lampkin shines at times and also shows the inexperience you'd expect from a soph after playing his first couple full games [facing VC, then S.I. and then HMB in your first 3 starts would give most soph's a full blown anxiety attack for sure - so props to Lampkin for hanging in there]. Once Lampkin settles down and understands when & when not to throw he'll rise to the next level. At times his hesitation is clear when getting ready to pass. With that Serra will be one of the best passing teams other than Pitt & M-A that Wilcox will have faced. Both Pitt and M-A had success passing against Wilcox. In the case of the Pitt game Pittsburg was unable to run against Wilcox, but was able to pass for over 300-yards mostly on short pass routes. Turn-overs and penalties key for Serra to keep to a minimum.
Projection: Serra 27-21
Does Serra have enough speed and athleticism on the perimeter to make Wilcox defend them in space?
You raised my next question, can the young QB get the ball into their playmakers hands in positions to make plays. Styles make great games, and it seems it's Wilcox's big physical line play and running attack vs Serra's athleticism. Serra seems like Pittsburg but with much better line playThey certainly do. That's their strength. However, a key question is this: Can Serra's young QB get those athletes the ball in the right place at the right time? This would include going deep with accuracy on occasion. And, further, will Wilcox devise a way not to allow those same athletes to return punts and kickoffs for big chunks of yardage?
[B said:"remc[/B], post: 248500, member: 964"]You raised my next question, can the young QB get the ball into their playmakers hands in positions to make plays. Styles make great games, and it seems it's Wilcox's big physical line play and running attack vs Serra's athleticism. Serra seems like Pittsburg but with much better line play
Serra's QB Lampkin - the "X-Factor" for Padres
OK as to answering your question about the "new" Serra QB Dominique Lampkin and his ability to run the offense and get the ball to the talented playmakers he has at his disposal. As to the Serra offense suffering as to the loss of Daylin Mclemore there is no question his senior leadership and experience are missed, period. There is also Dylan Eaton who was without a doubt a quality resource to the Padres as either a QB, RB or WR lost early on to injury as well. Its only because of Serra's roster depth they have continued to roll. Now back to Lampkin and the Padres scoring in their last 3 games and to put that discussion into perspective & to rest. The Padres last 3 opponents being VC, S.I. & then undefeated HMB represented the top 3 opponents Serra has played this year. The fact the Padres scoring was below their average was to be expected and especially against VC. Yes Pitt is ranked higher than S.I. and HMB , however Serra soundly defeated Pitt while losing to S.I. [S.I. & Pitt currently ranked as almost dead-even] and being down 14-0 to HMB before storming back. The Serra win over Pitt was a blow-out and HMB not so much with 2 scores coming in the closing minutes + Pitt never led in the game vs Serra [Pitt was down 21-7 end of 1rst and shut out in 2nd 1/2 while Serra extended lead in both 3rd & 4th quarters]. While Pitt is 10-1 currently I'm not certain how they would do against either S.I. and to lesser extent HMB. I would def take VC in a match-up vs Pitt with VC's defense and wonder how others think that would play out[?]. Serra's Lampkin lacks experience, but is a raw talent with speed and elusiveness not often seen at his age level [ie: Leki Nunn..?].
While I would agree Serra lost an edge having McLemore as QB then possibly Lampkin as the "unknown" to opposing teams represents the "X-Factor". I like the X-Factor Lampkin upcoming vs Wilcox..
I'd point out that Pitt played Serra at full strength, VC, HMB, and SI did not.Hard to compare without that factored inSerra's QB Lampkin - the "X-Factor" for Padres
OK as to answering your question about the "new" Serra QB Dominique Lampkin and his ability to run the offense and get the ball to the talented playmakers he has at his disposal. As to the Serra offense suffering as to the loss of Daylin Mclemore there is no question his senior leadership and experience are missed, period. There is also Dylan Eaton who was without a doubt a quality resource to the Padres as either a QB, RB or WR lost early on to injury as well. Its only because of Serra's roster depth they have continued to roll. Now back to Lampkin and the Padres scoring in their last 3 games and to put that discussion into perspective & to rest. The Padres last 3 opponents being VC, S.I. & then undefeated HMB represented the top 3 opponents Serra has played this year. The fact the Padres scoring was below their average was to be expected and especially against VC. Yes Pitt is ranked higher than S.I. and HMB , however Serra soundly defeated Pitt while losing to S.I. [S.I. & Pitt currently ranked as almost dead-even] and being down 14-0 to HMB before storming back. The Serra win over Pitt was a blow-out and HMB not so much with 2 scores coming in the closing minutes + Pitt never led in the game vs Serra [Pitt was down 21-7 end of 1rst and shut out in 2nd 1/2 while Serra extended lead in both 3rd & 4th quarters]. While Pitt is 10-1 currently I'm not certain how they would do against either S.I. and to lesser extent HMB. I would def take VC in a match-up vs Pitt with VC's defense and wonder how others think that would play out[?]. Serra's Lampkin lacks experience, but is a raw talent with speed and elusiveness not often seen at his age level [ie: Leki Nunn..?].
While I would agree Serra lost an edge having McLemore as QB then possibly Lampkin as the "unknown" to opposing teams represents the "X-Factor". I like the X-Factor Lampkin upcoming vs Wilcox..
I'd point out that Pitt played Serra at full strength, VC, HMB, and SI did not.Hard to compare without that factored in
I'd also point out that Pitts QB was making his first varsity start. Don't get me wrong, Serra was clearly the better team, but Pitt is rebuilding this year, having lost all of their linemen from the previous two seasons. They've improved a lot since. In a rematch Serra would still win but not nearly like the season opener. I'd take Pitt right now over HMB and SI. VC? That's another story. But I'd give Pitt a good shot. VC 's line play is better, but Pitt has a lot of athletes and speed on the perimeter. Don't know how VC would match up out thereI'd point out that Pitt played Serra at full strength, VC, HMB, and SI did not.Hard to compare without that factored in
I'd also point out that Pitts QB was making his first varsity start. Don't get me wrong, Serra was clearly the better team, but Pitt is rebuilding this year, having lost all of their linemen from the previous two seasons. They've improved a lot since. In a rematch Serra would still win but not nearly like the season opener. I'd take Pitt right now over HMB and SI. VC? That's another story. But I'd give Pitt a good shot. VC 's line play is better, but Pitt has a lot of athletes and speed on the perimeter. Don't know how VC would match up out there
Yeah, they're 10-1 but the BVAL is down this year, not a typical 10-1 for Pitt. Serra is just a great team this year(at full strength) and at the beginning of the year I'd say DLS ,Folsom, Serra and probably Central of Fresno as the best teams in NorCal.Would have liked to see Serra vs DLS or Serra vs Folsom. I think VC, Pitt, Wilcox, SI, Liberty, Oak Ridge and Inderkum are just below the top four
Actually Pitt has been consistently good from the start of the season and the game vs Serra was by far their worst showing. I don't know that I'd call Pitt in a "rebuilding year" as they're, 10-1 with wins over Liberty and Wilcox and one of the top teams in the North Coast section.
I'd go with VC over PItt, S.I. and Pitt as a pick 'em and actually think HMB would have a shot as well. HMB played Serra very well for the 1rst 1/2 whereas Serra dominated Pitt from the start of the game.
As for Pitt's QB against Serra that was Jerry Johnson & actually his 2nd start. Pitt's QB Johnson tied a school record the prior week in the win over St. Mary's by throwing for 6-TD's going 21/31 for 368 yards. Johnson against Serra had his weakest game of the season going 14/36 for 225 yards, 1-TD, 1-INT which I credit to Serra's defense in that game.
Yeah, they're 10-1 but the BVAL is down this year, not a typical 10-1 for Pitt. Serra is just a great team this year(at full strength) and at the beginning of the year I'd say DLS ,Folsom, Serra and probably Central of Fresno as the best teams in NorCal.Would have liked to see Serra vs DLS or Serra vs Folsom. I think VC, Pitt, Wilcox, SI, Liberty, Oak Ridge and Inderkum are just below the top four
Couldn't agree more. The time has come for the removal of the "Folsom rule" and let's have the best play the best for a true NorCal championship. The question is what needs to be done to bring this about?I think most of us would like to see a 4 team playoff of the top teams in NorCal every year. I’d be more interested in seeing the winners of say DLS vs Central and Serra vs Folsom square off for an actual NorCal championship than have the Folsom Rule and see DLS automatically move on to play a college team in the Open.
Yeah, they're 10-1 but the BVAL is down this year, not a typical 10-1 for Pitt. Serra is just a great team this year(at full strength) and at the beginning of the year I'd say DLS ,Folsom, Serra and probably Central of Fresno as the best teams in NorCal.Would have liked to see Serra vs DLS or Serra vs Folsom. I think VC, Pitt, Wilcox, SI, Liberty, Oak Ridge and Inderkum are just below the top four
I was at the SF/VC game last Friday. I think VC would be just fine on the perimeter. They have some incredibly fast and athletic DB's, a freshman receiver who can fly and a punt returner who always made the first two Lancers miss. I also was at the Pitt/Serra game so Pitt must have improved. I just don't see Pitt getting the better of VC.I'd also point out that Pitts QB was making his first varsity start. Don't get me wrong, Serra was clearly the better team, but Pitt is rebuilding this year, having lost all of their linemen from the previous two seasons. They've improved a lot since. In a rematch Serra would still win but not nearly like the season opener. I'd take Pitt right now over HMB and SI. VC? That's another story. But I'd give Pitt a good shot. VC 's line play is better, but Pitt has a lot of athletes and speed on the perimeter. Don't know how VC would match up out there
It's a shame Serra lost not 1 but 2 QB's to injury and the #2 would have been playing WR/DB and yet another weapon on offense for Serra. The #2 BTW was one of the fastest players on the Serra team - the other "burners" being Sanchez, Poni, Loville [other than 100M times for Dylan Eaton, Sanchez & Poni can any Serra fan tell me who is the fastest player & if I omitted anyone].
From what I've seen Pitt like S.I. has improved dramatically since early season and are much better now. The S.I. vs VC game should be a good rematch, however extra motivation for VC and on their home turf.
[B said:"FBIQ[/B], post: 248639, member: 8965"]So what happens if Serra loses their current QB? Who's the next man up?
I see most of the playoff games tomorrow and Saturday are being streamed via NFHS including Serra-Wilcox. One of the few I do not see is VC-S.I.
[B said:"pc2986[/B], post: 248684, member: 6827"]Are you kidding no one is streaming the VC/SI game tomorrow?? That's a shame...
Hopefully someone will be there to pass along game notesYes seems strange, but not streamed last week either, so maybe VC doesn't participate in the program[?].
It is a shame as not everyone can get down to San Jose to view the game.
I'll post the question in thread topics to see if we're missing anything..
Here’s a link from the CCS for the VC/SI game.