I don't think Folsom drops all the way to 2AA. I think 1A is the lowest they'd fall, particularly if Saint Francis wins the CCS Open. That would mean two losses by St. Ignatius to the Lancers and one to San Ramon Valley. That would overcome the one loss to Serra.

10. Turlock at Oak Ridge
9. De La Salle vs. Pittsburg
8. Los Gatos at Riordan
7. Hollister vs. Carmel
6. Menlo vs. Palma
5. Cardinal Newman at San Ramon Valley
4. Grant at St. Mary’s-Stockton
3. Manteca at Rocklin
2. St. Francis vs. St. Ignatius
1. Windsor at Amador Valley

observer22 said:

If Pittsburg beats DLS in the NCS Open final, they would almost assuredly get the Open nod. They do not then play SRV or CN. The NCS Open loser plays the SRV- CN winner for the NCS D1 crown.

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Good point - one which I overlooked.

larry legend33 said:

Ironically CN stopped the original streak that DLS had back prior to the one that started in 1992. And in 1991 Newman lost in the 3A semi's to Pittsburg who then went on to beat DLS at the Oak Coliseum the next weekend. You never know..... But we got MC first and those bastards are good.

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Put the bottle down Larry 🤣, usually you are right on, but not on this one.

The original original streak for De La Salle reached 44 games and was broken at the Coliseum in the 87 NCS final by Monte Vista 14-13. The year before De La Salle had moved up to 3A and beat Monte Vista 24 to 7.

The ‘87 game had trick plays, bench clearing fight and came down to the wire on a controversial two point conversion attempt Rob Forrester was “stopped” by Steve Abrams at the pylon (personally think je was in). At the time De La Salle was chasing Cardinal Newman’s win streak which was 47 and at the time was a state record (ended by San Marin in ‘77 or ‘78).

DLS and Newman did play for the 2A title at the Coliseum in ‘84 . Vice and Vaez led Newman and Panella DLS. DLS beat them like 38-20.

CN and MC were in the same situation teams like Palma was in in CCS until they fixed it (partially), but even Palma could get pulled into the Open division with the current power point system since it competes in an A league. I use Palma as example because they are comparable programs and even faced off with CN a number of years. SRV is pretty strong this year, but in any given year it is no stronger than a WCAL top team which a team like Palma had to go through and when enrollment size dropped made it even harder to compete. DLS is the unique case but in the last few years even WCAL teams have had some success against them. NCS probably should incorporate equity league ratings like CCS (A, B an C) and keep A league teams in top divisions and power ratings. CCS also allows its Open/D1 league to let at least get into running for two division titles (Open and D1 titles). That way the team that loses to a team like DLS still has a playoff shot. There are still teams in this system that are on the short end if they lose round 1 in Open / D1 playoff, but it's better than one super team always eliminating all the others.

observer22 said:

If Pittsburg beats DLS in the NCS Open final, they would almost assuredly get the Open nod. They do not then play SRV or CN. The NCS Open loser plays the SRV- CN winner for the NCS D1 crown.

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CN has to beat SRV and the loser of the Pitt/DLS game to advance to norcal correct? That is just insane. The Newman vs MC game was better than 90% of the bowl games/teams will be and that was a 1st round section game. What a joke.

I also think if Pitt wins they go but Folsom is ranked higher in virtually every poll.

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1tunz1 said:

The last CN game vs. SRV I saw was way back in 2007 (I think), at the Oakland Coliseum for the NCS 3A championship. It was a great battle that SRV won.

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I was at that game. Yes it was 2007, and I recall it came right down to the wire. DLS-Cal was up next in the large school championship.

FBAddict said:

I think Folsom has fairly good shot if Clovis East loses to Central, Pittsburg beats DLS and then loses to SRV. In that case it would be a toss up between SRV and Folsom with the nod going to Folsom.

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If Pittsburg beats DLS in the NCS Open final, they would almost assuredly get the Open nod. They do not then play SRV or CN. The NCS Open loser plays the SRV- CN winner for the NCS D1 crown.

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Do you think there is an algorithm involved? It seems almost arbitrary. It seems like case- Palma rating hasn't been adjusted and below Menlo but Palma is favored. You would think they would adjust the score before the projection. Seems they go into the system and just adjust the projection.

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PALFan said:

Does Folsom get bumped all the way down to Div. 2A or 2AA? You have DLS that will be in the Open. Pitt is up next and then St. Francis, SI and Riordan all beat Serra and played tougher schedules then Folsom.

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I don't think so. I think the harder decision will be if both Folsom and Pitt run the table does the OPEN go to Folsom.? That seems crazy because on paper it should go to Pitt but stranger things have happened. You could argue Folsom today would be a more formidable opponent at full strength than Pitt would be. Folsom was without several key transfers during that time they lost to Serra. I'm not making excuses because fact remains they still lost but I think this is what will get pitched.

But I don't see any WCAL team remaining a candidate.

colhenrylives said:

The time is now. Followers of the Crusaders' football program have been waiting for three years for this moment. The team is on the brink of a significant accomplishment. If it can defeat Los Gatos next weekend in the CCS Division I playoffs, it will then play for a section championship and a slot in the CIF NorCal playoffs. The Crusaders dismantled Soquel on Saturday. That followed big WCAL wins vs. Serra and St. Francis. Riordan is finally playing up to its talent level. That's a scary thought. The Riordan roster, though not especially deep, is bursting with big-time individual star power. Until now, it has clearly under-performed. But the outlook has turned brighter, mainly because the defense has been shored up and mistakes are being kept to a minimum. Crusader backers are on a high _ with fingers crossed.

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Wish the Crusaders well. Would love to see them make a deep run

larry legend33 said:

The DLS and Pitt game got even more interesting. The veer in the rain is a recipe for fumbles.... Its a style that fumbles a lot anyway.

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I think Pitt will give DLS a run for their money.

NorCalSportsFan said:

Riordan defensive line in the middle is very stout and o-line really good. They have excellent RB and QB with fast WRs. Riordan is more athletic than Los Gatos. Got to favor Riordan if they play their A game but they also can be inconsistent.

Los Gatos QB is impressive and they are very sound on defense. A very good Cat team.

It will come down to the trenches and who limits big plays. Riordan dismantled and dominated a very good Soquel team that lost by 7 to the cats and seems to be playing at high level. I'm inclined to think Riordan will win by 10+ and should be favored, but if the Cats can withstand and neutralize the Riordan line, it could be a close one. Riordan also can start slow. I wouldn't call it a huge upset if Los Gatos pulls out a win. This is high school football.

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jordan24 said:

Soquel followers, since the Knights played both SRV and Los Gatos in close 14-7 losses, curious to get your assessment of Riordan and its upcoming game against Los Gatos? Riordan played a senior -dominated ‘ Cats team last year on the road in their first round loss. Essentially the entire Crusader squad returns for Saturday’s rematch.

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If Riordan plays like they did Saturday, I think they will win handily. Soquel and LG are comparable. LG has a more size and numbers but neither has the size or speed of Riordan.

This is a game Riordan should win, but again if Riordan looks past LG it could be a close game. Riordan is a very tough matchup for teams that can't match their physicality. They can spread you out and still maul you. LG plays smart sound football so if Riordan doesn't play a clean game anything could happen.

Macallan said:

You could be correct on that. However, IMO, since Serra beat Folsom, and then went on to lay an egg in the WCAL section, there is no scenario in which Folsom can get to the open.

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Does Folsom get bumped all the way down to Div. 2A or 2AA? You have DLS that will be in the Open. Pitt is up next and then St. Francis, SI and Riordan all beat Serra and played tougher schedules then Folsom.

championcif75 said:

Placer vs Twelve Bridges 2

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this one will be epic

Relly900 said:

This will help de la salle, st Francis, newman

Teams that run 90 percent of the time

As long as they don't fumble

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The DLS and Pitt game got even more interesting. The veer in the rain is a recipe for fumbles.... Its a style that fumbles a lot anyway.

Prepwisdom said:

Throwing a wet football is very problematic- even for "good" high school quarterbacks. Incumbent on teams to bring plenty of game balls- ballboys to do their job and officials to do a good job replacing balls.

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So Wednesday practice in full rain, and bring in the ball boys for a ‘dry run.’ Team with the most dry towels wins.

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championcif75 said:

Placer vs Twelve Bridges 2
Big week,big game…
should be another good one!
Go Placer

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Get'em Champ!!

Looks like NFHS is streaming these games too. Couple of good matchups in there

This will help de la salle, st Francis, newman

Teams that run 90 percent of the time

As long as they don't fumble