I am talking in general terms, Riordan played in more TOC’s than D1.
Thank you Sheldon
2019-20 WCAL Hoops Wrap Up/2020-21 Outlook
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I am talking in general terms, Riordan played in more TOC’s than D1.
Thank you Sheldon
LOL I went to St Vincent De Paul for Middle School and ended up at Stuart Hall for High School. This was around 2001, so I'm pretty sure its always been pretty random kids coming from all over the city and other places to go to private schools in SF.
A comprehensive online history of the Tournament of Champions indicates that Riordan (surprisingly) never played in that event. Sacred Heart, St. Ignatius, St. Mary's (B), St. Joseph's, O'Dowd, Salesian, among other papal powers back in the day, did compete in the TOC, once the premier post-season prep hoops tourney in NorCal. The TOC was out of business by 1981 as a CIF state tourney was re-instuted after a long hiatus.
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Riordan played in the TOC in 1980. I was there with my cousin. They won CCS and WCAL that year. Starting five as I recall were Phil Kess, Matt Balmy, Frank Avalos, Matt Rivera and Brett Crawford. Crenshaw was the SoCal school and was loaded. former major leaguer Darryl Strawberry was on that team.
https://www.bayareasportsstars.com/Counties/TOCHistory.pdf
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I can’t remember his name, but he went to HS and ended up at St. Mary’s SF park & Rec. But I think he was AD and coach at St. Phillips. Another great AAU coach, who I wish had obtained his Degree to Coach at one of the Cable Car Classic HS BB programs
I want to complain about these coaches that felt the need to get the few public school kids to come and join their basketball teams thus taking away playing time from the kids that actually went to the school. Shame on you coaches! If you had enough kids in the class to form a team there was no need to get public school kids!
Correct. That was Riordan's only appearance in that tourney. Unless the TOC material is inaccurate.
You guys are killing me with these old gyms. Epiphany, St Monica's MHR. Played for St. Stephen at Epiphany many times against Ron Isola teams. Love the team bench in the old confessional and the long run to the scorers table on the stage. You telling me Epiphany has a new gym?
Thank you for correction, I didn’t attend but for sure was told that Riordan’s Fab Five played at TOC. Maybe neutral site at Coliseum and that is what I am confusing
We are talking old school San Francisco. Pretty much before the unholy trinity started going coed. The lines started to dissolve once SH and SI went co-ed in mid/late 80s
WCAL-CCS Roundup and Tonight's CCS Open Semi's
- CCS DII Quarterfinal Tuesday
- Gunn 74 @ #3 Valley Christian 58
- Valley Christian's season ends
- Gunn 74 @ #3 Valley Christian 58
- CCS DIII Quarterfinals
- Jefferson 60 @ #1 Sacred Heart Cathedral 66
- Closer game than expected. SHC moves on!
- Westmoor 37 @ #2 St. Ignatius 72
- SI routs the Rams. Sets up SI-SHC III
- Jefferson 60 @ #1 Sacred Heart Cathedral 66
- #3 Bellarmine vs #7 St. Francis @ 6pm
- Would have given the Lancers a fighting chance against the Bells, but injury to Daly hurts.
- #1 Mitty vs #4 Menlo-Atherton @ 7:30pm
- M-A hangs tough until the Monach bigs of Bhandal and Burris impose their will and change the game.
- #8 Menlo @ #5 Serra - 5:30pm
- #6 Sacred Heart Prep @ #2 Archbishop Riordan - 6pm
The 1980 starting five were: Phil Kess, John Scott, Matt Ward, Frank Avalos, and Brett Crawford. Matt Rivera started on the 1979 team.
Yes, that was the only Riordan team to play in the Oakland/AAA TOC.
Back in 1960, Riordan played in the Peninsula TOC, which was played before the C.C.S. was formed.
Riordan played in Division 1 Playoffs in C.C.S. games and Nor Cal games until it was not allowed to play above it's Enrollment Division. That rule change was done before the 1996 season.
Tough to beat the ancient Bellarmine gym (now gone I think) for quaint. Played a freshman game there in 1970. It had a clock with a hand that went around, two half-court lines because the place was so cramped and showers I can't even describe. Regarding the old TOC, a fond memory circa 1978 was going with the guys from Burlingame Rec -- Steve Picchi, Ray Wagner, Clay Rice, Mike Ciardella, Carl Reyna -- to watch about five straight games at the TOC in Oakland. Good times.
still have nightmares of Crawford telling me he was going tio find me after the game and KILL me....lol i tried frustrating him with skinny elbows and cheap shots to no avail, baseline drive Dunk.!!....think they put up 104 that game.. a wcal record for a long time
If you're referring to CYO, those I think are parish teams, not school teams. For instance, Jack Wilson of Serra as a junior high kid attended the public junior high in Half Moon Bay but played CYO ball for the Catholic parish team in town. It wasn't a school team! So if there is a beef, it is with the founders of the league, not the coaches. I played in the Peninsula Parochial School League and those were school teams with no public school kids. You go by how the league is set up. St. Cecilia's slaughtered us in an eighth grade practice game because it had Catholic school kids like Eddie Silvia who later played at SI and probably public school kids as well.
5 minutes to go in the game. But I hear you. This game was over at halftime. Bellarmine up 32 on the Lancers. They are absolutely rolling and peaking at the right time.
Wednesday Night's CCS Open Quarterfinals Roundup @ Independence High
CCS Division III Finals - Saturday Feb 29th (Time and location TBD)
- #3 Bellarmine 57 vs #7 St. Francis 28
- Bellarmine with the rout of a young St. Francis squad. Missing Ryan Daly also hurt, but would not mattered with the outcome the way the Bells are playing right now.
- #1 Mitty 63 vs #4 Menlo-Atherton 45
- M-A hangs tough and even had the lead mid-4th quarter. Marcus Greene with a great overall game. Very impressed with Coach Molieri's scrappy Bears squad. They could make some noise in NorCals.
- #5 Aptos vs #1 SHC 5:30pm
- SHC looking looks to run against Aptos to set up a 3rd matchup with rival SI in the Final.
- #3 Monterey vs #2 SI 7pm
- The 'Cats look to make a statement of playing in the tough WCAL against a good Monterey squad.
- #8 Menlo @ #5 Serra - 5:30pm
- It's Serra's tenacious defense and motion offense against a tall and disciplined Menlo squad. If the Jungle is packed tonight, Serra wins going away.
- #6 Sacred Heart Prep @ #2 Archbishop Riordan - 6pm
- A good opportunity to erase the sting of the Crusaders loss against St. Francis. As for like opponents, SHP beat SI in OT in non-league and lost vs Bellarmine last week. SHP most likely to throw a zone at Riordan. Crusaders look to up the tempo and tighten its defense as it prepares for NorCals.
CCS Division III Finals - Saturday Feb 29th (Time and location TBD)
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You do realize that the Serra game is the CCS Loser bracket. I am guessing won't even be 1/2 full.
I though Rivera was 79. St. Francis won league in 79 (I believe, as well as football and baseball). Norman was the stud.
Yes. I was corrected by the venerable ARHS Stats. Norman was good, but Crawford was one of the best HS players in the country. He should have won POY both junior and senior year, but only won it his junior year. I remember an article in the SF Examiner writing about that and how Crawford beat Norman and the Lancers that year for the WCAL title.
I recall finals held at San Jose St Event Center, Santa Clara Leavey Center (Power Bar Gym), Foothill College.
1982 possibly? Riordan lost to a Rory McLoud led Jefferson Indians in the title game that year. Rory played for Epiphany’s Parish team in grade school.
I dislike these consolation games. CCS trying to make extra $ on the backs of kids. Nothing good can come out of this for any team. Key players could get injured and then what? You're screwed for NorCals. Id play only your bench and seniors that rarely got into games during the season.
I don't like consolation games either. I was at a Valley Christian at Los Gatos football consolation game in 2014 and it was hard to watch. Los Gatos won 27-0, but I don't think either team took it that seriously. Regarding the basketball consolation games, my vague memory of why they are held is so that teams heading into regional play (all of the Open teams, right?) don't get too rusty after their initial Open loss. Not a financial thing, I don't think.
Irish beat Aptos 71-49. They will play SI on Saturday. The Kitties beat Monterey 76-60.
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2014-15 Serra football team was supposed to play Milpitas in a Consolation football game. Coach Walsh declined to play the game. Serra seniors including my son lost the opportunity to play in the playoffs the following year because of the sanctions put on the program. Kids lost their senior year. Unfair to the kids. Kids could get hurt I agree but it also hurts not playing and losing that opportunity. You only get 1 high school career. I know what Coach Walsh was doing and thinking but it didn't work out for that group of Padres.
CCS Division III Finals - Saturday Feb 29th (Time and location TBD)
Not that anyone cares other than about half the players on each squad but crazy to me that CCS hasn't announced a time or location for the epic SI v SHC battle less than 48 hours before game time.
Not that anyone cares other than about half the players on each squad but crazy to me that CCS hasn't announced a time or location for the epic SI v SHC battle less than 48 hours before game time.
May be trying to find a location in the City thats more favorable to each schools parents, fanbase etc...maybe.
Knowing the CCS types, It will probably be at 3 pm at Willow Glen.
Pretty Close! Sequoia High School at Noon tomorrow!
Nice 50 minutes drive up the 101 for those SHC Boys!
