Final CCS playoff projections after week 10
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Is valley Christian a lock to be in D2 open? Or is it a possibility that they could still end up in D3 open?
Valley Christian could end up in DIII under the following scenario:
1. Saratoga doesn't make the play-offs which will occur if Saratoga losses to Fremont or Aragon beats Hillsdale or Saratoga losses out on the three way tiebreaker for the final two at-large spots: And
2. Aptos, Scotts Valley or Pacific Grove do not opt up into the top division. If one of these teams opts up they will be in DIII (all are smaller enrollment than VC). If Terra Nova was moved down then VC would stay in DIII, but if Aragon or Piedmont Hills was moved down then VC would move back into DII.
PALbooster and all concerned,
The Lincoln "champion" point issue has been definitively resolved by the BVAL and approved by the CCS office. Here's how it will work: the Lincoln/San Jose BIG BONE game has been declared a non-league game since all league games (per by-laws) need to be completed by November 14th. Therefore, if Lincoln defeats Independence this Friday (as expected), they would finish league play with a 5-0 record and by virtue of everyone else having at least one league loss, be declared league champions. This would award a full bonus point to all of Lincoln's opponents (including Aragon). However, if Lincoln loses, the winner of the Westmont vs Silver Creek game this Friday would finish with a 6-1 league record and they would be declared the league champion.
Hope that helps!
RoodyPoo
The Lincoln "champion" point issue has been definitively resolved by the BVAL and approved by the CCS office. Here's how it will work: the Lincoln/San Jose BIG BONE game has been declared a non-league game since all league games (per by-laws) need to be completed by November 14th. Therefore, if Lincoln defeats Independence this Friday (as expected), they would finish league play with a 5-0 record and by virtue of everyone else having at least one league loss, be declared league champions. This would award a full bonus point to all of Lincoln's opponents (including Aragon). However, if Lincoln loses, the winner of the Westmont vs Silver Creek game this Friday would finish with a 6-1 league record and they would be declared the league champion.
Hope that helps!
RoodyPoo
Thanks. I had heard that the section office was deciding what to do about it, but not heard that they had made a decision.
Yep,
I was just going to chime in. The BVAL was working with the section office about it. The Big bone game will be a non league game in this scenario and will be written into our league by-laws as such. I think they (our commissioner, reps and CCS) did a nice job coming to this resolution. It makes more sense this way. San Jose and Lincoln can continue their tradition without the fall out to the rest of the section.
I was just going to chime in. The BVAL was working with the section office about it. The Big bone game will be a non league game in this scenario and will be written into our league by-laws as such. I think they (our commissioner, reps and CCS) did a nice job coming to this resolution. It makes more sense this way. San Jose and Lincoln can continue their tradition without the fall out to the rest of the section.
With Roody Poos' information - it means that if Lincoln wins this week Aragon will have 19 points and make the field as an at-large - since their CBED has been readjusted to 1431 (was 1467) - it means that Valley Christian would definitely be in DII Open. Unless one of the monumental upsets occur Piedmont Hills would be the final at-large team and Saratoga would be left out.
Interesting scenario for Aptos if they win Friday and win their league - if things play out as expected (Riordan loses to SF and Monte Vista Christian loses to San Benito) - Aptos would face either Live Oak or Burlingame if they opted up and then the winner of MVC vs Live Oak or Burlingame in a semi-final.
why does this zrules guy troll the coach at PHHS? Did he get cut when he was on JV or something.
Save that nonsense for the hoops boards, NOW BACK To CCS Football.
Save that nonsense for the hoops boards, NOW BACK To CCS Football.
CCS play-offs After Week 10
Open Play-offs
The open play-off field is set. The only unanswered question is whether Aptos and/or Pacific Grove will elect to opt up into the open play-offs or stay in the non-open play-offs. Based on reports from others on the board and on twitter neither will move up.
Automatic Qualifiers – 20
WCAL – Bellarmine, Valley Christian, St. Francis, Riordan
Monterey Gabilan – Palma, San Benito, Salinas, Monte Vista Christian
Mt. Hamilton – Oak Grove, Live Oak, Leigh, Pioneer
DeAnza – Milpitas, Los Gatos, Wilcox, Palo Alto
PAL Bay – Menlo-Atherton, Burlingame, Sacred Heart, Terra Nova
At-Large teams
1. Mitty 23.5
2. Aragon 19
3. Alvarez 18.83
4. Piedmont Hills 18 – win tiebreaker with Saratoga due to head to head win.
5. Saratoga 18
Projections with CBED numbers, projected records and points
Open Division I
8. Piedmont Hills 2245 4-6 18 vs 1. Bellarmine 3300 9-1 29.25
5. San Benito 2877 6-4 23.5 vs 4. Menlo-Atherton 6-4 2157 24.0
6. Palo Alto 1969 4-6 20 vs 3. Salinas 2616 6-4 25
7. Alvarez 2496 4-6 18.83 vs 2. Milpitas 3113 8-2 28.5
Open Division II
8. Pioneer 1627 4-6 19 vs 1. St. Francis 1731 9-1 31.75
5. Leigh 1686 8-2 25.5 vs 4. Wilcox 1937 8-2 26.5
6 Los Gatos 1875 7-3 25 vs 3. Valley Christian 1457 7-3 27
7. Mitty 1744 6-4 23.5 vs 2. Oak Grove 1940 8-2 29
Open Division III
8. Aragon 1431 5-5 19 vs 1. Palma 754 9-1 31.33
5. Sacred Heart Prep 604 7-3 25.83 vs 4. Monte Vista Chr. 815 9-1 27.83
6/7. Terra Nova 1046 5-5 20 vs 2/3. Live Oak 1061 9-1 28
6/7. Riordan 1354 7-3 26.67 vs 2/3. Burlingame 1342 9-1 28
2 and 3 are interchangeable and Burlingame can’t play SHP, Aragon or Terra Nova in round one.
A teams that did not to make the play-offs: Serra (ineligible), SI, SHC, Monterey, Christopher, Sequoia, Leland, Santa Teresa, Willow Glen, Saratoga, Homestead and Fremont.
Opt-up scenarios:
1. If just one of Aptos or Pacific Grove opts into the open Piedmont Hills will be sent down. Oak Grove would move to DI and Aragon would move to DII.
2. If both Aptos and Pacific Grove opted up Alvarez and Piedmont Hills would be moved down. Pacific Grove would play in DIII. Aptos Would play in DII. Aragon would move to DII and Oak Grove would move to DI.
Non-Open Play-offs
The field is set here unless Aptos and/or Pacific Grove opt up.
Automatic Berths
Mission Trail – Pacific Grove, Soledad
Santa Cruz – Aptos, Scotts Valley
PAL Ocean – Hillsdale
PAL Lake – Capuchino
El Camino – Santa Clara
West Valley – Mt. Pleasant
Santa Teresa – Silver Creek (replaces Lincoln)
Monterey-Pacific – North Salinas
At-large
1. Half Moon Bay 21.5
2. Carmel 21.16
3. Menlo 20.16
4. Kings Academy 20
5. San Lorenzo Valley 19.5 (if they beat Harbor)
6. Westmont 17.5
7. Independence 17.5 (lost head to head to Westmont)
8. Alisal 17.33
Non-Open Division I
8. Westmont 1530 6-4 17.5 vs 1. Hillsdale 1379 9-1 27.5
5. Soledad 1369 8-2 22.83 vs 4. Silver Creek 2479 9-1 23.5
6. Santa Clara 1913 9-1 21.5 vs 3. North Salinas 1925 8-2 24
7. Mt. Pleasant 1472 8-2 20.5 vs v 2. Aptos 1418 6-4 24
If Aptos opts up Piedmont Hills would enter the field and it would look like this
8. Westmont 1530 6-4 17.5 vs 1. Hillsdale 1379 9-1 27.5
5. Santa Clara 1913 9-1 21.5vs 4. Soledad 1369 8-2 22.83
6. Mt. Pleasant 1472 8-2 20.5 vs 3. Silver Creek 2479 9-1 23.5
7. Piedmont Hills 2245 4-6 18 vs v 2. North Salinas 1925 8-2 24
Non-Open Division II
8. Capuchino 1146 6-4 17.33 vs 1. Pacific Grove 594 8-2 23.83
5. Menlo 578 6-4 20.16 vs 4. Scotts Valley 781 7-3 20.33
6. Kings Academy 594 8-2 20 vs 3. Carmel 867 7-3 21.16
7. San Lorenzo Valley 807 6-4 19.5 vs 2. Half Moon Bay 1013 8-2 21.5
Open Play-offs
The open play-off field is set. The only unanswered question is whether Aptos and/or Pacific Grove will elect to opt up into the open play-offs or stay in the non-open play-offs. Based on reports from others on the board and on twitter neither will move up.
Automatic Qualifiers – 20
WCAL – Bellarmine, Valley Christian, St. Francis, Riordan
Monterey Gabilan – Palma, San Benito, Salinas, Monte Vista Christian
Mt. Hamilton – Oak Grove, Live Oak, Leigh, Pioneer
DeAnza – Milpitas, Los Gatos, Wilcox, Palo Alto
PAL Bay – Menlo-Atherton, Burlingame, Sacred Heart, Terra Nova
At-Large teams
1. Mitty 23.5
2. Aragon 19
3. Alvarez 18.83
4. Piedmont Hills 18 – win tiebreaker with Saratoga due to head to head win.
5. Saratoga 18
Projections with CBED numbers, projected records and points
Open Division I
8. Piedmont Hills 2245 4-6 18 vs 1. Bellarmine 3300 9-1 29.25
5. San Benito 2877 6-4 23.5 vs 4. Menlo-Atherton 6-4 2157 24.0
6. Palo Alto 1969 4-6 20 vs 3. Salinas 2616 6-4 25
7. Alvarez 2496 4-6 18.83 vs 2. Milpitas 3113 8-2 28.5
Open Division II
8. Pioneer 1627 4-6 19 vs 1. St. Francis 1731 9-1 31.75
5. Leigh 1686 8-2 25.5 vs 4. Wilcox 1937 8-2 26.5
6 Los Gatos 1875 7-3 25 vs 3. Valley Christian 1457 7-3 27
7. Mitty 1744 6-4 23.5 vs 2. Oak Grove 1940 8-2 29
Open Division III
8. Aragon 1431 5-5 19 vs 1. Palma 754 9-1 31.33
5. Sacred Heart Prep 604 7-3 25.83 vs 4. Monte Vista Chr. 815 9-1 27.83
6/7. Terra Nova 1046 5-5 20 vs 2/3. Live Oak 1061 9-1 28
6/7. Riordan 1354 7-3 26.67 vs 2/3. Burlingame 1342 9-1 28
2 and 3 are interchangeable and Burlingame can’t play SHP, Aragon or Terra Nova in round one.
A teams that did not to make the play-offs: Serra (ineligible), SI, SHC, Monterey, Christopher, Sequoia, Leland, Santa Teresa, Willow Glen, Saratoga, Homestead and Fremont.
Opt-up scenarios:
1. If just one of Aptos or Pacific Grove opts into the open Piedmont Hills will be sent down. Oak Grove would move to DI and Aragon would move to DII.
2. If both Aptos and Pacific Grove opted up Alvarez and Piedmont Hills would be moved down. Pacific Grove would play in DIII. Aptos Would play in DII. Aragon would move to DII and Oak Grove would move to DI.
Non-Open Play-offs
The field is set here unless Aptos and/or Pacific Grove opt up.
Automatic Berths
Mission Trail – Pacific Grove, Soledad
Santa Cruz – Aptos, Scotts Valley
PAL Ocean – Hillsdale
PAL Lake – Capuchino
El Camino – Santa Clara
West Valley – Mt. Pleasant
Santa Teresa – Silver Creek (replaces Lincoln)
Monterey-Pacific – North Salinas
At-large
1. Half Moon Bay 21.5
2. Carmel 21.16
3. Menlo 20.16
4. Kings Academy 20
5. San Lorenzo Valley 19.5 (if they beat Harbor)
6. Westmont 17.5
7. Independence 17.5 (lost head to head to Westmont)
8. Alisal 17.33
Non-Open Division I
8. Westmont 1530 6-4 17.5 vs 1. Hillsdale 1379 9-1 27.5
5. Soledad 1369 8-2 22.83 vs 4. Silver Creek 2479 9-1 23.5
6. Santa Clara 1913 9-1 21.5 vs 3. North Salinas 1925 8-2 24
7. Mt. Pleasant 1472 8-2 20.5 vs v 2. Aptos 1418 6-4 24
If Aptos opts up Piedmont Hills would enter the field and it would look like this
8. Westmont 1530 6-4 17.5 vs 1. Hillsdale 1379 9-1 27.5
5. Santa Clara 1913 9-1 21.5vs 4. Soledad 1369 8-2 22.83
6. Mt. Pleasant 1472 8-2 20.5 vs 3. Silver Creek 2479 9-1 23.5
7. Piedmont Hills 2245 4-6 18 vs v 2. North Salinas 1925 8-2 24
Non-Open Division II
8. Capuchino 1146 6-4 17.33 vs 1. Pacific Grove 594 8-2 23.83
5. Menlo 578 6-4 20.16 vs 4. Scotts Valley 781 7-3 20.33
6. Kings Academy 594 8-2 20 vs 3. Carmel 867 7-3 21.16
7. San Lorenzo Valley 807 6-4 19.5 vs 2. Half Moon Bay 1013 8-2 21.5
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Thanks. If that is the case then DI open, the large non-open and small non-open match-ups are set. Today's results can still impact DII and DIII open seedings
